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"thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, cmwings, 16. Apr 2003 18:32
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Have any of you redd the PKER SEC-10K filed today?

Antico Holdings, also owners of "thepokerclub", just renigged on over $600k due to the PKER shareholders. Not going into details,but I ask who might Antico Holdings re-nig on next? And, w/all the legitimate-well-managed web-poker-sites available out there, why would anyone risk money with those Anticodinky penny-ante-grifters?

Frequent poker player, upset PKER shareholder, and fully cashed out from "thepokerclub", cmwings
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, cmwings, 18. Apr 2003 09:38
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Anyone else notice at "thepokerclub.com" website, all references to the Antico Holdings ownership have been removed?

Good Luck cashing out from "thepokerclub"!
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, smartone, 18. Apr 2003 13:18
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Check out on Raging Bull site-Pker,where by his own admission he did not "cash out" but was actually blocked from playing on the site.

The truth will set you free Bones.
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, cmwings, 18. Apr 2003 13:43
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yes smartone, "thepokerclub" does not pay their outstanding debt. You are correct! I signed up for the $50 bonus and had my account disabled. Do you know why? Because I threatened those welching-DEADBEATS that I would post their $600k debt to the real-time-players at the poker-site. You know what else? Those guys are so really dumb because I'm going to change hats and do it anyway.

ye shall know the TRUTH...and...ye better cash-out ye chips from "thepokerclub" muy pronto, cmwings
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, blubster, 18. Apr 2003 17:52
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I don't trust this place at all either. I've had some serious problems there in the past.

There management are a bunch of boneheads and know nothing about running a poker room.

If you all wanna keep up to date with shady poker establishments or those that don't pay join my mailing list: http://pokerstart.com

I'm an avid poker player and will get the word out to you if a particualr poker room is not paying or appears to be having a bunch of problems with players

blubster



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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, smartone, 18. Apr 2003 21:31
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Hey blubster,

Exactly what problems have you had with thepokerclub?????????

cmwings was not unable to cash out on the site,by his own admission they blocked him from playing...................

I guess he's a little shady and not to be trusted!
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, Andrew Wells, 18. Apr 2003 22:17
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I'm currently freerolling with them, an hour or two here and there. They started me with $50 "cash", and I was going to grind it up to a respectable bankroll for decent limits. Now after looking into this further, I'm going to see what happens with a cashout instead. It doesn't seem as though they have enough drop to cover all the daily giveaways, and pay shareholders. But they could just be trying to build a player base at the moment. I wouldn't be entertaining myself there if not for the original fifty but I sort of like the software, and the players are beatable.
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, cmwings, 19. Apr 2003 04:31
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Andrew, why not freeroll at a LEGITIMATE poker-site? They all offer bonuses at one time or another. And you have some guarantee that you wouldn't be wasting your time!

A site that doesn't hype $100k in bonuses and then show up in an SEC-10K filing as re-nigging on a $600k debt outstanding!
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, Andrew Wells, 19. Apr 2003 09:56
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I had never heard of them when they sent me an e-mail offer of a free $50 to try their site two weeks ago. I just thought I'd check it out. I haven't even played 500 hands there. I don't spend much time playing 'net poker, so it's more like entertainment. I have played at half a dozen sites and respond to certain bonuses. I prefer to play for meaningful stakes with players I can see. I don't have a losing record with any on-line games, but I don't win enough overall since I refuse to put in lots of time or play anything beyond 5-10. Besides, I moved to Kansas City so I could be near a decent card room in a major city with low expenses. It was a whole different situation when I was living in Massachusetts and Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun was 100 miles away.
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, Poker Crone, 19. Apr 2003 08:17
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what do you like about their software, cf paradise, pro poker?
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, Andrew Wells, 19. Apr 2003 10:07
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I like it that all my unimproved big overpairs have won there. I like it that $1-$2 plays and feels like a live $10-$20 game. I like it that I haven't seen monster hands such as quads or straight-flushes showndown. It also seems the software is much faster in getting on with the next hand. The players have also been as quick as on Paradise. It feels comfortable.
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, smartone, 19. Apr 2003 12:30
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Just thought of something,maybe cmwings is on to something.This Antico didn't pay poker so it could have lots of money for the players.I can't find any reference to Antico?? on thepokerclub site.Maybe there is no connection and it really is as I see it,cmwings was banned from the site and is lashing
out.
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, cmwings, 19. Apr 2003 14:00
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You really are a smartone. What a great idea...rob a bunch of PKER-shareholders so you could "have lots of money for the players".

Not only has all reference to Antico Holdings just RECENTLY been removed from the website, but these DEADBEATS are so stupid as to not list ANY ADDRESS WHATSOEVER at "thepokerclub.com" website. Very smart group, these Antico Deadbeats, no address should surely instill a lot of faith in a player wishing to make a deposit.

good luck cashing out from "thepokerclub" DEADBEATS, cmwings
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, blubster, 19. Apr 2003 14:16
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I personally just wouldn't trust this company.

The reason you see nothing about Antico holdings at the site anymore or anything related to PKER is because they don't own the domain poker.com anymore! They lost their name!

It doesn't get any more irresponsible then that! Having a company that actually trades under the name poker.com(for 3 pennies albeit) and then not having the commnon sense to make sure the name is secure.

That's why you see no reference to PKER or anything like that becuase it's not their site anymore, someone else owns it now! I'm not talking about the poker club site but their main site they used to have. It's the same company that runs the poker club.

I mean if this company could'nt take care of thier own company name, how can I expect them to take care of my money . That's just the way I see it.

blubster

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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, sith, 19. Apr 2003 15:57
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What `cmwings' Tim Mayrath doesn't want you to know.

Tim is from Texas. His sworn opinion is that playing online poker in Texas is illegal.

Tim says he plays online poker `illegally' at all the major online sites. This doesn't bother Tim, yet he felt compelled to swear an affidavit on behalf of Liz Niles aka Alacorp, aka former (current?) owner of the url "Poker.com", stating that Alacorp had a right to renege on her contract with PKER because they were allowing Antico Holdings (`anticoholdingtheirdinkies' as funnyman Tim so aptly and so often calls them) to use the url `illegally' because the site allowed him to bet illegally.

Is any online poker site safe from Tim? Don't get on this man's bad side. He'll do anything he can, legal or illegal, truthful or deceitful, to get what he wants. But what is it that Tim wants? That is something else Tim doesn't want you to know. He seems to want us to believe he is acting on behalf of the shareholders of PKER which he claims to be one of. Yet he is assisting Liz in her battle to divert the url to another revenue source that PKER does not earn money from. Only Liz does. Or is that right? What is Tim's connection here? What is it Tim doesn't want us to know?

Tim says Antico reneged on their $600K debt and therefore players should be wary about putting their money in a site run by `renegers'. Tim doesn't want you to know that he has inflated the size of the debt to make it seem more impressive. Tim doesn't want you to know that the `debt' is money due for the purchase of the right to use the url `poker.com' for 99 years and royalties set out in that contract with PKER which PKER honored for only 3 years out of 99. Tim doesn't want you to know that Antico's lost revenues over the next 96 years will be many many times the sum he claims Antico is reneging on and that therefore Antico's claim against PKER will be many many times the `debt' Tim claims they are reneging on.

Why can Tim say the things he says without fear of being sued for libel? Tim knows that the company he is slandering is an offshore company. Tim knows that the company he slandering is involved in a market that is under attack by US politicians. Tim knows that the company he is attacking is unlikely to sue him in the US and therefore Tim can lie and publish those lies.

Why am I posting anonymously when Tim has the courage to use his real name? Because I've seen what Tim is capable of and I can't devote all my time and energy to defending myself against a man who has no compunction about lying to get what he wants. I have a family. I have a job. I have bills and commitments and am happy when I get a little time to go online and play some poker. I don't know where Tim gets the time and the energy to devote himself to destroying other people's businesses unless this is Tim's job. The only conclusion I can objectively come to is that Tim is either profiting from efforts or has been promised that he will profit. If Liz is making the promises Tim, I'd suggest you get it in writing.oh wait, Liz doesn't care if it's in writing, does she? Good luck Tim.
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, Mike Caro, 19. Apr 2003 15:54
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For the record, I have never personally had a bad experience with this company and would welcome anyone stating its side of the story here.

Since the discussion seems rational and some posters have claimed first-hand experience, I'm letting this stand for now. But please keep in mind that we don't want any person or any institution to be unfairly slandered by use of UPF.

We simply don't have the resources to check out every allegation, and -- therefore -- we often delete those we're not sure about.

Has anyone had a good experience with this cardroom? All comments are welcome here?

Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, sith, 19. Apr 2003 16:20
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Mike,

This is clearly a contract dispute between two main parties with several other parties affected. The big loser is the public company PKER, the big winner is alacorp who had granted a license on their URL `poker.com' for 99 years, but pulled it after 3 when they realized they could make money with it elsewhere. The battle is being fought in the courts and cmwings is one of the combatants. He has sworn an affidavit on behalf of of Liz Nile (alacorp) stating that Antico allowed him to bet from Texas and therefore is in violation of US laws and therefore rightfully lost the use of the url 'poker.com'. He has chosen to take the fight the poker forums as he announced he would in the ragingbull PKER forum. The cardroom refused to pay PKER the amounts due under the contract only after PKER lost the url which it had in turn licensed to the cardroom for 99 years. If PKER did not hold up its end of the contract, why does cmwings expect Antico to hold up theirs?Cmwings' posts should be viewed as malicious and libelous material as surely as a post that was put up by a competitor cardroom would be viewed.
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, sith, 19. Apr 2003 16:28
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to clarify my comment about a competitor cardroom, I simply mean that cmwings 'Tim Mayrath' has ulterior motives and his posts hold no more merit than if a cardroom were to use this forum to bash other cardrooms. Mayrath has clearly made it his mission to hurt ThePokerClub.com in any way he can and has no problem misleading others in order to suit his own needs. Once he entered the legal battle, he became a 'competitor' and should be viewed as such.
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, cmwings, 19. Apr 2003 16:42
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Dear Mike Caro, I can certainly understand your concerns. It is my opinion that the Antico Holdings Owner is also a raving lunatic (read his long-winded post above based on zero evidence)? That opinion is based on many documented facts, some of which I've posted here. I'd be happy to assist you in the search for the TRUTH.

And IMO, the search for the TRUTH re: "thepokerclub" is as much on topic as any other topic, to this forum.

Sincerely, Tim Mayrath, "cmwings" & "mrducks" in the various poker-rooms
bones1420@lycos.com

PKER-PR-documents, PKER-SEC-documents, and the motion in B.C. Court including my affidavit would all be at your disposal.
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Re: "thepokerclub" bonuses ever be paid?, smartone, 19. Apr 2003 21:08
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Dear Mr.Caro,

It does not matter if I have had a problem with thepokerclub (for the record I have not) where the problem is,is this Tim Mayrath from Texas is bashing the site because he was blocked from playing.I was not sure why until I read information that certainly would explain his behaviour.He is involved in a law suit against poker.com inc and is using poker forums to promote his own issues.

I find this unacceptable and would be really concerned if I owned a site as he seems to be willing to lie and break the law in order to achieve his??????????????????/.
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