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 Casino poker first-timer, ross, 8. Apr 2003 17:46 | ||
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| This weekend I will sit for the first time at a casino poker table. I plan on playing 2-4 or-6 hold 'em. I'm both nervous and excited and I was wondering if anyone can give me some tips and pointers or strategies. Everything and anything will help Thanks | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, Mike Caro, 8. Apr 2003 17:57 | ||
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| on 8. Apr 2003 17:46 ross wrote: > This weekend I will sit for the first time at a casino poker table. I plan on > playing 2-4 or-6 hold 'em. I'm both nervous and excited and I was wondering if > anyone can give me some tips and pointers or strategies. > > Everything and anything will help > > Thanks Hi, Ross -- I'm sure others will give you specific pointers, but first and foremost, you need to understand that at those smaller limits you want to play a very straightforward game. Nothing too fancy. Fancy plays against unsophisticated opponents (and most of the casino players at those limits WILL be unsophisticated) simply lose money. That's because opponents don't understand your deception on most plays and, therefore, won't be tricked by it. You'll make more money choosing the most obvious plays almost all of the time. Weak hands will call anyway. Straight Flushes, Mike Caro | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, 4 POKER, 8. Apr 2003 18:31 | ||
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| I AGREE WITH MIKE CARO. PLAY THE BEST AND MOST STRAIGHTFOWARD GAME YOU CAN PLAY. FANCY MOVES DO NOT WORK IN LOW LIMIT POKER. AND FOR THOSE WHO TRY TO BE FANCY AND THINK THAT THEY ARE A STEP ABOVE THE SOLID PLAYER SHOULD THINK AGAIN. MOST OF YOUR MONEY WILL BE MADE FROM PLAYING GOOD STARTINGS AND FROM PLAYING DIFFERENT HANDS IN THE RIGHT SITUATIONS. TRY NOT TO GET CAUGHT UP IN PLAYING THE LOW CONNECTING CARDS FOR MULTIPLE BETS. THEY ARE NOT MONEY MAKERS IN THE LONG RUN, AND REMEMBER, WHEN SOMEONE IS HOLDING A PREMIUM HAND, WHETHER IT BE AA, KK QQ, AK AQ, OR JJ, THEY DON'T HAVE TO IMPROVE... YOU DO!!!( THEY WANT YOU TO PUT IN 4 BETS WITH THAT TRASH, REMEMBER THAT)!!! IF YOU HAVE READ ANY GOOD BOOKS, (BOB CIAFFONE, OR JIM BRIER) FOR EXAMPLE, THEN TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED, KEEP TO THE BASICS AND YOU WILL DO JUST FINE. IF YOU ARE NERVOUS AND FEEL THAT THE OTHER PLAYERS MIGHT PICK UP ON SOME TELLS , THEN MAY I SUGGEST WEARING A PAIR OF SUNGLASSES. GGOD LUCK, AND JUST HAVE FUN. YOU MAY NOT WIN YOUR FIRST SESSION BUT IF YOU PLAY WITH A SOUND MIND AND USE YOUR BEST JUDGEMENT, YOU WILL WIN, ALOT MORE THEN SOMEONE WHO DEPENDS ON GETTING LUCKY WILL. POKER IS A GAME IN WHICH THE RESULTS SHOW IN THE LONG RUN, NOT FROM A COUPLE OF SESSIONS OR EVEN A COUPLE OF YEARS... IT TAKES TIME, PATIENCE, AND NUMBER 1, IT TAKES DISCIPLINE. MAKE SURE YOU BRING YOUR NUMBER 1 TO THE TABLE AT ALL TIMES!!! BEST TO YOU 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, noiseboy, 9. Apr 2003 10:06 | ||
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| I agree that you don't want to call multiple raises with the small connectors, or Axs or small pairs for that matter. However, low limit games are usually loose, so if you think you can get in for one bet, small connectors can be good because you usually will have great odds if you flop a strong draw. The nice thing is if you hit you win a ton of bets, because in low limit they still call you when it's OBVIOUS you have a straight or flush, and if you miss the hand its extremely easy to get away from it for just one bet. I do agree with you that you simply need to play better hands than your opponents and play them straightforwardly against weak opponents. If you don't play 76s or Axs when you are on the button with seven callers and no raise, you are missing profit, period. | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, ross, 8. Apr 2003 18:58 | ||
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| THANKS ALOT MIKE, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ADVICE | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, ross, 8. Apr 2003 18:59 | ||
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| I GUESS ONE THING THAT I LEFT OUT IS THAT I AM A WINNER MANY OF THE TIMES I PLAY HOME GAMES. SHOULD I ALTER MY STRATEGY AT ALL FOR THE CASINO? | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, 4 POKER, 8. Apr 2003 19:27 | ||
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| NO, IF IT'S NOT BROKEN, THEN DON'T FIX IT!! HAVING SAID THAT, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO ADJUST YOUR GAME DEPENDING ON THE CALIBAR OF PLAYER YOU WILL BE PLAYING AGAINST. YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PLAYERS IN YOUR HOME GAME, GIVING YOU AN ADVANTAGE. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU PLAY IN A CASINO, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PLAYER YOU MAY BE UP AGAINST, SO JUST PLAY YOUR BEST GAME, MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS IF NEED BE AND I THINK YOU'LL DO JUST FINE. 4 POKER | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, SendMoney, 8. Apr 2003 20:09 | ||
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| Ross, I think it's important that low-limit Hold Em is a suck out game, that is you can have great stuff on the flop, like flopped set but by the river you're facing an unpaired board with 4 hearts, and needless to say there are 2-3 other players in and you don't have a heart. Quite frankly it's just not a game where you can frequently flop top pair with a good kicker and win without improving, people will chase back door flushes, gutshots, middle pair, bottom pair, and if there are enough of them in the pot someone is bound to get lucky. Although others may differ I say don't be afraid to bet your draws on the flop if your draws are strong. Even if you have to absorb a raise behind you, you'll win some monster pots when you do hit. Say you call with 9-10 suited and the flop comes 7-8-A rainbow in a 4 handed pot that was unraised pre-flop. You have first action and you toss in a bet, and you get a raise behind you. You'd figure a raiser would probably have AK, AQ, A8, A7, 88, 77 or 78. By calling the raise the bettor would probably put you on an ace with a weak kicker or a pocket pair in the middle of the board such as 99 or 10-10. Now let's say the turn is a rag such as a 2 or 3, and the river brings you your perfect nut straight card either a 6 or a J and you bet out on the river. The raiser will probably figure you made 2 pair with A6 or AJ and if he has that beat he will probably raise you, at which point you would want to re-raise since you've got the nuts and it may take him another bet (or two) to figure that out. My last session at a live poker room was last night. I played $3-$6 Hold Em against a fairly loose aggressive table, and I cashed in with $100 and cashed out with $180 after about 3 hours. In that time the biggest pocket pair I was dealt was 10-10, and I never did flop a set. Of all the hands I won I don't remember flopping top pair with a strong kicker and winning any big pots that went down to the river. I'm not encouraging you to play like a maniac, and you should definitely make the obvious plays, bet your sets, trips, top two pair, flopped straights, flopped flushes, flopped full houses, top pair strong kicker, but don't be afraid to occasionally bet your draws too. Sometimes when you're on the button and the whole table has called and the blinds don't much look like they're raising and you've got 7-8 offsuit I'll pitch in a call hoping to get lucky. Like any other hand you should be aware of the caliber of the players at the table, and bet/check/raise/fold according to the relative strength and potential strength of your hand, the # of players in the pot, and the current and implied pot odds. But all I'm saying is, if you're the big blind and you've got As2s and the flop comes 7h8sQs - don't be afraid to fire in a bet even if there was a preflop raiser. And don't worry about the turn card, you're gonna get em on the river anyway ;) Rick "You can keep your Aces, give me 9-10 suited" | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, Nathaniel Brous, 8. Apr 2003 20:17 | ||
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| Hey Ross, One big difference between the home game and the casino will be the speed in which the game is running at. It goes very fast and you are expected to play accordingly. Don't let the pressure affect the way you play your hands. If you need to, call out "Time," and take a moment to think on your play. This in itself is a tell, but it is much better to do this than make a bad decision because you "feel" pressured to. Remember something important. You don't have to play a hand. There is no statute of limitations on folding. Try to avoid saying "what the heck" just to experience something. Use this time to create good habits. Above all try and pay attention. When you find you are having trouble doing that, you may want to consider taking a break and/or leaving (regardless of whether or not you are up money). - Nathaniel Brous | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, stdioh, 9. Apr 2003 07:40 | ||
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| 1. Listen to Mike Caro - don't be fancy - play your cards and let your opponents fish along and donate when you have the best hand. 2. Be really tight. The loser the game, the tighter you need to be. 3. Be prepared to get rivered - a lot. Low limit casino games are river games - people chase all kinds of garbage, so be prepared to take some beats and if you feel yourself about to tilt, go for a walk. 4. Don't be taken by surprise if the casino has a few rules you are not used to. Don't make string bets. Post when the dealer tells you to (for instance coming onto the table as a new player). 5. Don't let anybody know that you've never played in the casino before or you might become a target. 6. Expect to lose. Casino games are very different from home games. It is very easy to come in there with a lot of confidence and think that you are so much smarter than your opponents. Be humble; expect to lose. And if you make money, don't let it go to your head. 7. Most important of all, HAVE FUN. Poker isn't your livelihood...don't get so wrapped up in the strategy of it that you hate it...that said, it's a lot more fun to win than it is to lose :) | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, noiseboy, 9. Apr 2003 10:54 | ||
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| One last thing that might help, remember that in very loose games, it is often better to have the best draw than the best made hand. Don't get too attached to your big pairs when there are possible straights and flushes, and you have five people drawing to them. In loose games, what you really want is a draw to a nut hand, when you have this, don't wait until the hand is made to bet it, get your money in whenever the pot is laying you better odds than the odds that you will win the hand. An example is when you have the nut flush draw and overcards and four or five opponents, if they don't bet YOU bet it and start building yourself a pot. Lastly, almost NEVER bluff in low limit hold'em. Only at very small pots when it's just you and one other player. | ||
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| Re: Casino poker first-timer, ross, 9. Apr 2003 14:12 | ||
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| thanks for all the help guys. i really appreciate. | ||
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