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 quitting, MIKE B, 7. Apr 2003 22:08 | ||
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| this is for the whole forum,how long should one play in a session,should you quit when u win a certain amount,500 ,1000 etc. heres the reason for my question i generally play 15-30 or 20-40 alot of sesssions i get up 500-1000 and continue to play before you know it i have given back alot of profit. | ||
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| Re: when to quit, flintsword, 7. Apr 2003 22:19 | ||
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| When you are "in the zone" and the cards are doing Handspring's, keep playing until you drop or the cards stop. If you are tired, want to stop, and ahead, call it a successful night and cash in. If you are tired and behind, stop, log the negative data in your notebook, and fight fresh the next day. Some players I know use stop-loss techniques (ie) "three racks dead, off to bed!" | ||
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| Re: when to quit, shorn, 8. Apr 2003 05:33 | ||
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| The decision should be based on the game and how you are playing. While it is mentally difficult to do it, you should never base your decision on whether or not you are ahead or behind. I need to continually remind myself that poker is "all 1 big session" and therefore try not to get to caught up in session to session results (sometimes I am successful at this, other times not so successful...see "UGH" post earlier). Good luck. | ||
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| Re: when to quit, flintsword, 26. Apr 2003 15:21 | ||
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| I agree with you, shorn, that poker is one big session. That said, IMO there are times when a player should quit because that player is behind due to "the real reason the player is behind" which may be one (or a combination) of: tired, tilt, too much coffee, bad table (but you haven't quite figured it out yet), the rare structured card play against you (euphemism for cheating ...), loss of discipline, headache, cold, or personal problem. I think you are saying that ONLY being down (all other things being equal) is no reason to quit and that a bad run of cards are part of the game. I agree. Thanks for commenting on my post. | ||
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| Re: when to quit, shorn, 8. May 2003 05:56 | ||
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| Absolutely. All the other things that you mentioned are legit. reasons for quitting and the disciplined player will keep track of them. If you don't, you will end up leaking chips like a sieve. Playing too long is the biggest problem in my mind...you get tired and if you are losing, your will power to leave behind diminshes. I think Roy West has the best system as he checks himself every 2 or 3 hours to see how he is feeling. I have tried to adopt that too. | ||
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| Re: quitting, stdioh, 8. Apr 2003 08:34 | ||
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| I believe in playing when the conditions are good. If you have a fishy table, stick it out even if you are losing, so long as you are on your A game. If you start to go on tilt because you are taking bad beats then leave. If you've been there for 20 hours and have to prop your eyes open with toothpicks, then you are not on your A game - go home. If you are killing the table and have a giant stack of cheques in front of you, but the conditions are still great, stay. If the money leaves you, easy come easy go. Just play when you have the best of it and play well and the long run will be good to you. | ||
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| Re: quitting, Nathaniel Brous, 8. Apr 2003 09:01 | ||
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| This may go against the grain here but it worked for me. Keep a log over an extended period of time. Patterns may reveal themselves. For me it was time played. After three hours, I rarely increased my stack and often would give it back or hover at that point wasting time. I deduced it was my attention span and so now I play for three hours and walk. Sometimes I play a second session later that night. If it is a particularly good game I may stay, but keep a very careful watch on myself. - Nathaniel Brous on 7. Apr 2003 22:08 MIKE B wrote: > this is for the whole forum,how long should one play in a session,should you quit when u win a certain amount,500 ,1000 etc. heres the reason for my question i generally play 15-30 or 20-40 alot of sesssions i get up 500-1000 and continue to play before you know it i have given back alot of profit. | ||
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| Re: quitting, 4 POKER, 26. Apr 2003 15:56 | ||
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| I make my decision based on several things. If I'm winning a decent amount and feel that I can extract more money out of the game then I stay. As long as I'm not tired, or distracted by something that may have just occured. If I'm losing and feel that I have a chance to still make a profit then I'll play a little longer to see if things turn around. But if I'm too tired and have already put in my share of hours, then I'll leave. Booking a losing session doesn't mean anything to me because we're all going to have losing days, it's part of the game. The key to that for myself is to never get burried in any one game. It's bad for your game, it will effect your psychological well-being and it can do a number on your bankroll; not to mention it's poor money management. So whether you're winning at the moment or losing, it all depends on how you are feeling... tired, distracted, angry, a little on tilt, headache, any of those negatives should be a sign to quit. (remember that you can feel one or several of these emotions even if you are winning). Keep a good mental note of your emotions at all times, don't get caught up in the moment. And don't think that you're really as sharp after 8 hours of play like you were when you first walked through the door... it's not possible. Yes, some of us have a longer endurance then others, but I'd be curious to know on what other forms of work would one person feel exactly the same way mentally after putting in an 8 hour day. 4 POKER | ||
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