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Disturbing Roy Cooke Article, Kevin J, 3. Apr 2003 19:06
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I apologize if this has been covered already. CardPlayer arrives late to my card room and I just read the article "The Good and the Bad".

I also want to make clear that in no way do I mean any disrespect to Mr. Cooke. On the contrary, I greatly admire someone who is secure enough in themselves and their poker ability to publicly discuss their own adversity at the game. Also, I go out of my way to read anything this guy writes. I've never played with him, but I suspect he's gotta be one of the top limit players (this is one reason why I was so disturbed by his article).

I'm wondering if I even understood it correctly. It seemed to say that Roy went on a 365 big bet slide in just under a month in his 30-60 game. Roy states that he doesn't play full-time anymore. So you do the math. Something's not right. It seems almost statistically impossible for a great player with a decent edge to go on this kind of slide. In what, 80-100 hours? Did I misunderstand something in the article? Has Roy played enough poker where this can be expected (once in 80-100,000 hours?).

This is the scariest poker article I ever read.
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Re: Disturbing Roy Cooke Article, stdioh, 4. Apr 2003 08:29
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Roy has put in tens of thousands of hours playing cards and this is the worst slide of his career. As I've said before, it is statistically likely for statistically unlikely things to happen often. Losing 300+ big bets in a month is ricoculous, but it's not out of the realm of possibility and when you put in that many hours, eventually things like this come along and bite you.
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Re: Disturbing Roy Cooke Article, shorn, 4. Apr 2003 08:39
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on 4. Apr 2003 08:29 stdioh wrote:
> Roy has put in tens of thousands of hours playing cards and this is the worst slide
> of his career. As I've said before, it is statistically likely for statistically
> unlikely things to happen often. Losing 300+ big bets in a month is ricoculous, but
> it's not out of the realm of possibility and when you put in that many hours,
> eventually things like this come along and bite you.

I have to say (and I haven't read the article), having this happen to Roy whom I respect as a world class player makes my recent post of losing 90BB's in 15 hours seem more normal. I am not taking comfort in his loss mind you; however, it shows me that evne the best of players can have very bad runds of cards for a long time.
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Re: Disturbing Roy Cooke Article, Paul Stine, 4. Apr 2003 09:36
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on 4. Apr 2003 08:39 shorn wrote:
> on 4. Apr 2003 08:29 stdioh wrote:
> > Roy has put in tens of thousands of hours playing cards and this is the worst slide
> > of his career. As I've said before, it is statistically likely for statistically
> > unlikely things to happen often. Losing 300+ big bets in a month is ricoculous, but
> > it's not out of the realm of possibility and when you put in that many hours,
> > eventually things like this come along and bite you.
>
> I have to say (and I haven't read the article), having this happen to Roy whom I respect
> as a world class player makes my recent post of losing 90BB's in 15 hours seem more
> normal. I am not taking comfort in his loss mind you; however, it shows me that evne the
> best of players can have very bad runds of cards for a long time.

And now for the really disturbing part:

Not only *can* a long bad run occur, statistics theory says (at least how I read it) that if you play long enough, the long bad run *must* occur.

Paul Stine
College Station, TX
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Re: Disturbing Roy Cooke Article, stdioh, 4. Apr 2003 15:59
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> And now for the really disturbing part:
>
> Not only *can* a long bad run occur, statistics theory says (at least how I read it) that if
> you play long enough, the long bad run *must* occur.

This is only true if you live forever. And to be perfectly candid, if I get to live forever, losing 300 big bets isn't going to bother me all that much :)
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I misunderstood the article, Kevin J, 4. Apr 2003 21:20
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Guys, I'm pretty sure I misunderstood the article. What I think he was saying is that he won (say 275) big bets in Jan and lost (say 90) big bets in Feb and now was off 365 big bets from his Jan performance. I'm not sure why he would look at it that way, but it sure makes me feel better. I doubt he slid 365 big bets. I'd probably quit playing poker if that were to happen to me.
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Re: I misunderstood the article, stdioh, 7. Apr 2003 09:58
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I'm afraid you're off base here. No pro has his worst month of his career being - 90 big bets.
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