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world poker tour, gary ford, 31. Mar 2003 11:19
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Congratulations!!!---Someone finally got it right ! After the dull, boring shows on ESPN, WPT has produced an exciting, entertaining poker show. Sexy girls,exotic location,interesting bios on players and great graphics combined to make a great first show. My biggest surprise was the performance of Mike Sexton. Articulate and excited, Mike did a fine job, The set was great , the "lingo" explanations were great, and "peeking' at the cards added real time excitement. This show will be a big boost for the poker community
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Re: world poker tour, shorn, 31. Mar 2003 11:33
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on 31. Mar 2003 11:19 gary ford wrote:
> Congratulations!!!---Someone finally got it right ! After the dull, boring
> shows on ESPN, WPT has produced an exciting, entertaining poker show. Sexy
> girls,exotic location,interesting bios on players and great graphics combined to
> make a great first show. My biggest surprise was the performance of Mike Sexton.
> Articulate and excited, Mike did a fine job, The set was great , the "lingo"
> explanations were great, and "peeking' at the cards added real time excitement.
> This show will be a big boost for the poker community

I agree. And how about the world class laydown by Scotty of his A5 after he hit in the river. I would have been out right there, potentially figuring my opponent for an overpair to the flop. As KGB would say:

"Lays down a monster. The fu*k did you lay that down! You should have paid me off on that."
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Re: world poker tour, Schuster, 31. Mar 2003 11:44
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Yeah, Scotty's laydown was amazing. He probably felt even better when he found out later that it was the correct play.

Also, Deeb's bluff with 6h3h seemed pretty shaky to me. If Gus hadn't have hit his queen on the river, it may have worked, but in Gus's shoes, I probably would have made the same call anyday. The only hand I'd figure he could have was a stronger queen. Given the preflop raise, AQ or KQ was reasonable, but he didn't bet on the turn, so I'd put him off KQ. Then again, these guys are the ones playing for the millions, so they probably know a little more than me ;)

Lee
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Re: world poker tour, shorn, 31. Mar 2003 12:00
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on 31. Mar 2003 11:44 Schuster wrote:
> Yeah, Scotty's laydown was amazing. He probably felt even better when he found out later
> that it was the correct play.
>
> Also, Deeb's bluff with 6h3h seemed pretty shaky to me. If Gus hadn't have hit his queen
> on the river, it may have worked, but in Gus's shoes, I probably would have made the same
> call anyday. The only hand I'd figure he could have was a stronger queen. Given the
> preflop raise, AQ or KQ was reasonable, but he didn't bet on the turn, so I'd put him off
> KQ. Then again, these guys are the ones playing for the millions, so they probably know a
> little more than me ;)
>
> Lee

More than me too. Deeb's play was questionable, but it may have been set up by previous play (even in another tourny) that we don't know about. He seems awfully solid to me. I was surprised at how much limping occurred with all that $$ on the line. I would have thought that at that level, it is raise or fold before the flop, but maybe not. I guess if you know your opponents well enough and you know they will let you limp, then why not. I guess you can always get away from a limp too if raised on your left.
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Re: world poker tour, Chad, 31. Mar 2003 12:32
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I thought the show was great, I mean really great.
Is that Shana hot or what?
However, I do hope that after a few shows are under their belt, they will tend to get away from the constant educating, as most players watching these types of shows already know what the "flop, big slick, trapping, etc" mean.

I know they are trying to bring in a larger audience and I will keep that in mind for a while, but after a full season, I would love to see more sharp analysis "like criticism for Deebs slow playing those QQ's preflop" and less of the ABC's of poker.

As far as the touney itself, I thought that the play was relatively poor.
Deebs tried to many fancy slowplays, which cost him at least second place, and Gus was just completely lucky to finish 1st.
The bald guy misplayed the flopped set of 7's he made, as he should have raised after the turn card, the ace on the river made his trap a mistake.
Deebs plays good overall but why pick that time in the tourney to run at it with 63 anyway? He comes in at least 2nd if he mucks that hand preflop.

Other than the Scotty Ngyuen lay down of A5 which I though was played way to hard in the first place, I thought this was the worst overall play at a final table I have seen.

IMHO

Hope they keep up the great work of the show and maybe we will see a table with Chan, Hellmuth, Nguyen, Cloutier, Ferguson, & Myself Soon.

Also who would be up for some Shana in a bikini?

Later,
Chad
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Re: world poker tour, shorn, 31. Mar 2003 12:42
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I agree that the A5 was played way too strongly, but that is Scotty's style from what I have seen. Deeb seemed to play differently than normal, but he still got there.

And Shana in a bikini? Hubba hubba....
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Re: world poker tour, Paul Stine, 31. Mar 2003 16:25
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on 31. Mar 2003 11:19 gary ford wrote:
> Congratulations!!!---Someone finally got it right ! After the dull, boring
> shows on ESPN, WPT has produced an exciting, entertaining poker show. Sexy
> girls,exotic location,interesting bios on players and great graphics combined to
> make a great first show. My biggest surprise was the performance of Mike Sexton.
> Articulate and excited, Mike did a fine job, The set was great , the "lingo"
> explanations were great, and "peeking' at the cards added real time excitement.
> This show will be a big boost for the poker community

I was pleasantly surprised and pleased with Sexton's performance. I kind of wonder, however, about him remarking that Juanda 'got lucky' when his 55 held up against AQ. Juanda was ahead all the way! I suppose that in a 50/50 situation whoever wins 'got lucky'.

Overall, I thought it was an excellent treatment of tournament poker. The powers behind WPT (Dalton, Dinkins, et.al.) are to be congratulated on a class product and production.

Paul Stine
College Station, TX
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Re: world poker tour, Easy E, 3. Apr 2003 09:53
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To me, although Mike was obviously adding some hyperbole, the comment fell in to something I've been thinking about, on the play of middle-small pairs. I'll put that together later, but my short answer would be, "he was lucky to be all-in, so he couldn't get moved off of the hand when the cards came"
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Re: world poker tour, Mike Caro, 1. Apr 2003 17:17
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on 31. Mar 2003 11:19 gary ford wrote:
> Congratulations!!!---Someone finally got it right ! After the dull, boring
> shows on ESPN, WPT has produced an exciting, entertaining poker show. Sexy
> girls,exotic location,interesting bios on players and great graphics combined to
> make a great first show. My biggest surprise was the performance of Mike Sexton.
> Articulate and excited, Mike did a fine job, The set was great , the "lingo"
> explanations were great, and "peeking' at the cards added real time excitement.
> This show will be a big boost for the poker community

I, too, thought the entire production -- Sexton included -- was first rate. It was presented in such a way that even novice players could share in the excitement.

You will notice that many of the hands -- now that you see them exposed -- are, indeed, played the way I have been saying for years. World-class poker, especially short-handed, is not a war of premium holdings. It is a war of moving into and away from pots in ways based largely on psychology.

Despite this, there were several very bad calls that couldn't be justified. I will not comment on which they were, but maybe others would like to express their opinions.

Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro
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Why the heck WON'T you?, Easy E, 3. Apr 2003 09:51
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> You will notice that many of the hands -- now that you see them exposed -- are, indeed, played the way I have been saying for years.
> Despite this, there were several very bad calls that couldn't be justified. I will
> not comment on which they were, but maybe others would like to express their
> opinions.

As the host of UPF, and a self-confessed crazy poker player, wouldn't YOUR comments be more valid than most others?

C'mon, Mike, isn't that what you are HERE for, and the forum is here for? To get expert players to comment expertly?
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