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 starting out, Poker God, 24. Mar 2003 15:36 | ||
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| im just going to start to begin playing poker in a casino. Im very serious about it and read all the poker books and poker info as i could have. Im just wondering though what sort of things i will need to know about playing in a casino that i would have read in a book. Such as things to wear, manners and things of that nature. Any info will be of help. | ||
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| Re: starting out, Risky Business, 25. Mar 2003 06:45 | ||
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| Wear whatever the hell you want! Players can be thrown by your attire. Just don't disrespect your room. If you play the Super 8 Motel, walk in wearing a bathing suit, but if you play Bellagio, you should wear a different kind of suit. Be comfy!! Plan your bathroom breaks accordingly, look into smoking/non-smoking if you don't know the tells, and watch your drinking if you're so inclined. | ||
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| Re: starting out, uncanick, 25. Mar 2003 07:21 | ||
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| Table selection can be very important to a first-timer. I would suggest looking for a middle-aged,mixed gender group, preferably at mid-day. Yes, a bunch of rocks. The play will be conservative and easily read. Older players , if shown the proper respect , are more than willing to instruct a new player in the nuances of casino poker. In this situation, a friendly and befuddled attitude can go a long way. Once you have acclimated yourself to casino play,move on. | ||
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| Re: starting out, stdioh, 25. Mar 2003 07:10 | ||
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| on 24. Mar 2003 15:36 Poker God wrote: > im just going to start to begin playing poker in a casino. Im very serious about > it and read all the poker books and poker info as i could have. Im just > wondering though what sort of things i will need to know about playing in a > casino that i would have read in a book. Such as things to wear, manners and > things of that nature. Any info will be of help. If you are a new player, then you probably give off a lot of tells. I know there will be some strenuous opposition from my colleagues here, btu I would suggest a hat and non-reflective sunglasses. The way you dress also does a lot for your image. Do you want to be seen as a loose, bad, action player? If so, dress like a silly tourist. I only wear hawaiian shirts with a cowboy hat in cardrooms, even when it is -40 C and snowing out. Also, be prepared to be surprised that there are a lot of players who are half decent. I would suggest that while you're getting used to the environment you play very tight and sit only at the lowest limit. Feel it out and go slow. Lots of luck to you. | ||
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| Re: starting out, shorn, 25. Mar 2003 12:43 | ||
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| on 25. Mar 2003 07:10 stdioh wrote: > on 24. Mar 2003 15:36 Poker God wrote: > > im just going to start to begin playing poker in a casino. Im very serious about > > > it and read all the poker books and poker info as i could have. Im just > > wondering though what sort of things i will need to know about playing in a > > casino that i would have read in a book. Such as things to wear, manners and > > things of that nature. Any info will be of help. > > If you are a new player, then you probably give off a lot of tells. I know there > will be some strenuous opposition from my colleagues here, btu I would suggest a hat > and non-reflective sunglasses. > > The way you dress also does a lot for your image. Do you want to be seen as a loose, > bad, action player? If so, dress like a silly tourist. I only wear hawaiian shirts > with a cowboy hat in cardrooms, even when it is -40 C and snowing out. > > Also, be prepared to be surprised that there are a lot of players who are half > decent. I would suggest that while you're getting used to the environment you play > very tight and sit only at the lowest limit. Feel it out and go slow. > > Lots of luck to you. I like the Hawaiian shirt/cowboy hat disguise. I am also fond of the "I Love(Heart)Las Vegas" t-shirts...that is always an eye-grabber. | ||
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| Re: starting out, stdioh, 26. Mar 2003 08:29 | ||
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| > I like the Hawaiian shirt/cowboy hat disguise. I am also fond of the "I Love(Heart)Las > Vegas" t-shirts...that is always an eye-grabber. I was in Vancouver visiting my folks in December and I went to play the Holliday Inn for a couple of days - offset the cost of the plane tickets and all. I had breakfast with my dad before I went out to play and he lambasted my outfit (my family is of the formal-attire-to-go-for-a-walk variety). He told me, "You look like an ***hole in that gettup. You look like some kind of pimp." My response was, "I want to look like an ***hole or a pimp or anything other than a good poker player." Dad smiled and I realized that I had reached him on a new level. | ||
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| Re: starting out, shorn, 26. Mar 2003 08:31 | ||
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| on 26. Mar 2003 08:29 stdioh wrote: > > I like the Hawaiian shirt/cowboy hat disguise. I am also fond of the "I Love(Heart)Las > > Vegas" t-shirts...that is always an eye-grabber. > > I was in Vancouver visiting my folks in December and I went to play the Holliday Inn for a > couple of days - offset the cost of the plane tickets and all. I had breakfast with my dad > before I went out to play and he lambasted my outfit (my family is of the > formal-attire-to-go-for-a-walk variety). He told me, "You look like an ***hole in that gettup. > You look like some kind of pimp." My response was, "I want to look like an ***hole or a pimp or > anything other than a good poker player." Dad smiled and I realized that I had reached him on a > new level. Excellent. Beware of pimps at the poker table. the worst thing that you can ear is a coordinated sweatsuit...makes you look like a total pro. | ||
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| Re: starting out, stdioh, 26. Mar 2003 08:44 | ||
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| > Excellent. Beware of pimps at the poker table. the worst thing that you can ear is a coordinated > sweatsuit...makes you look like a total pro. No kidding...as soon as somebody is wearing a full sweatsuit, it screams pro. I don't know what the appeal is other than the comfort factor, but everyone in my cardroom who wears a matchins sweatshirt is a grade A player. Other people to beware of in my books are asian women who are dressed sexilly with high heals and well done makeup, thin white women who are not wearing makeup, and anybody who looks like they are sitting in their livingroom when they are waiting for a table. | ||
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| Re: starting out, Paul Stine, 25. Mar 2003 14:21 | ||
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| on 24. Mar 2003 15:36 Poker God wrote: > im just going to start to begin playing poker in a casino. Im very serious about > it and read all the poker books and poker info as i could have. Im just > wondering though what sort of things i will need to know about playing in a > casino that i would have read in a book. Such as things to wear, manners and > things of that nature. Any info will be of help. Take a light jacket or windbreaker with you even if it is 110 degrees in the shade outside. They keep those poker rooms b*ll shrinking cold. Paul Stine College Station, TX | ||
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| Re: starting out, Fox, 25. Mar 2003 15:22 | ||
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| Here are the things that I didn't really get from reading a book, you could say when I first stepped into a casino. (I've only played 4-5 times, so there's still lots to capture) 1. Game sizes (1-2,2-4 etc) are sometimes in separate areas. So if you don't see a 2-4 game, ask if it's in another part of the Casino. 2. Lingo. Getting on the board. You put your initials/name on the board. I found that if it's a long line, you usually want to watch some games that may be away from the board or go to the bathroom (i.e. where you can get back in a flash when they call your name) you seem to have between 10-20 seconds to claim your seat when called. Ask them to "Lock it up". They'll lock up a seat for you for a short period of time. 3. Posting. When you sit down you can post immediately or wait. This is your preference. But if you don't post the small and big blind, you have to post the small and big blind when the button moves past you to play. 4. People leaving/coming. I still don't understand this one. Sometimes 2 bb are posted sometimes 2 sb and 1 bb when people are getting up and moving. But, if you want to change your seat alert the dealer immediately when you see someone leaving. 5. Manner. I found on the smaller tables, in general, people are usually pretty friendly. Feel free to ask some questions. (I never knew what the 'jackpot' was until I asked, and btw I was on the "losing" end of a jackpot on 2-4 last week. The 'losing' end is when you win the hand 4aces for me, aces over 7's for the opponent. She got 1G I got 300) Play your game though, don't get caught up in chatter if it throws you off. 6. Don't play out of the rack. Put your chips on the table 7. Protect your cards at all times, especially if you sit next to the dealer 8. Get a free copy of "Card Player" if they have it. 9. Wear. Wear whatever you are comfortable in. Note that casinos are usually very well air conditioned. 10. Post your blinds in a timely fashion. Some dealer will wait for you to post before they deal or at least have to ask you to do it. This will become second nature. 11. Be serious about a stop loss. Take your roll for this session and convert it all to chips. If all the chips are gone, so are you. Pros will say to stay if the table is good and your just running bad, but this is your first time, don't get killed. Always feel free to leave when you want. 12. Best Hand wins. Dealers make mistakes, I've seen plenty in the short time I've played. It's not what the person calls his/her hand but what it really is. 13. Think. I still need to do a lot of basic thinking, about my position, pot odds, what hands to play etc. Right now this takes away from more strategical plays/thinking, but you need to play right first, and most strategy doesn't work at low limit no-fold'em poker. 14. Don't slow roll. If you raised last, show your hand. If you think you have the best hand show it. 15. Don't play out of turn. There's a lot of this in low-limit, don't know about hight, but I'd guess it's not as rampant up there. Some dealers will tell, some players will, others will just ignore it, but you should play your turn. The most common thing I see is that player 2 stalls, or seemingly checks, 3 goes, 4,,5,6 etc. then 2 decides to go. It's because 3 went and it kicked off the wave. 16. Ask for Time if you need to think. It's not a problem if you need more time, but ask for it, it's polite and the dealer won't pass you over with a call. 17. Notice when the table gest 2-3 people short handed. This happens kinda often and can go unnoticed if your not paying attention. 18. Watch for people's cards. Folks next to you love to show you a hand they are throwing away or if your not in the hand(especially if you get a good 'rapore' going). Note this, as it gives insight into there play and take advantage. 19. Enjoy yourself. Setting a stop limit and playing well, even if you don't win, is a good start. Winning of course is the best. Personally, I find I think and critique my game more when I lose than when I win and probably learn more from this. - Fox on 24. Mar 2003 15:36 Poker God wrote: > im just going to start to begin playing poker in a casino. Im very serious about > it and read all the poker books and poker info as i could have. Im just > wondering though what sort of things i will need to know about playing in a > casino that i would have read in a book. Such as things to wear, manners and > things of that nature. Any info will be of help. | ||
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| Re: starting out, Mark B., 26. Mar 2003 07:07 | ||
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| If I were you, I would go to the poker room and observe a table that has a game you are likely to play. This will give you an understnading of what to expec before you sit down. I would not sit down and ask anyone for help or advice as this will be seen as a sign of weakness and other players will try to exploit it. I know that I would. I would also approacht he game very conservatively, playing strong starting hands and not chasing. Af ter you play 20 or 30 hands, you will feel very comfortable. Most importantly, remember that every player had a first time in the poker room. | ||
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| Re: starting out, stdioh, 26. Mar 2003 08:41 | ||
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| Here is the lowdown on when to post. Some details of this will change depending on the cardroom, but you can use this as a guideline. You post your big and small as usual, but if you miss your big then you can't play until the puck passes you - when it does you post your big and surrender your small. When you are coming from a broken table you generally do not need to post and can wait to come in after the puck. When you are a new playing or changing tables without the other table breaking you must post when you come in. You may just wait for your BB and play it, you can wait until after the puck and just post your BB there, or you can post right when you sit. Depending on the rules you may be able to come in as a new player on the puck and depending on the room you may be able to post in the small blind just once as long as the player who just left (you are taking his seat) paid the big blind on the previous hand - essentially you are posting into a hand with a dead small blind. If you're not sure about when to post, then don't. The dealer will ask you to and then you can. If you start asking questions about how all of it works, some players will probably target you as a newbie. Also, know beforehand whether there is a rake or a session fee. At some tables the dealer will skim a rake out of the pot whereas at others the dealer will collect $X every half hour. If you sit at the table and the dealer asks you for a session fee, it means that you have to pay before you can play - know what the rake or session fee is for a game before you sit down. For instance you might sit at a 10-20 that has a $5 session fee every half hour. If you sit at 2:45 or later you get to play 15 minutes for free, but if you sit at 2:40 you have to pay for the session. Then every half hour on the half hour, the pit boss will say, "session fee," and each player will put out a red chip which the dealer will collect. Players away from the table will get session fee buttons (including players on a meal button) which they will have to pay for when they return, before they can play a hand. Hope that helps. | ||
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