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 new to Omaha 8, noiseboy, 18. Mar 2003 11:32 | ||
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| I have read Cloutier's book, which is very informative, but I wonder how playing the low limit games (4/8 with a 1/2 kill) affects my strategy. Should I be seeing more flops but playing extra-tight thereafter? Also, is there somewhere online that I can get good starting requirements for these types of games where four to six players are in each pot? Thanks. | ||
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| Re: new to Omaha 8, stdioh, 18. Mar 2003 13:36 | ||
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| on 18. Mar 2003 11:32 noiseboy wrote: > I have read Cloutier's book, which is very informative, but I wonder how playing > the low limit games (4/8 with a 1/2 kill) affects my strategy. Should I be > seeing more flops but playing extra-tight thereafter? > > Also, is there somewhere online that I can get good starting requirements for > these types of games where four to six players are in each pot? Omaha rewards tight play much more than hold'em. Play tight, play the nuts, take money from the losers fast. If you have a garbagey starting hand, chuck it and move on. | ||
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| Re: new to Omaha 8, noiseboy, 18. Mar 2003 14:02 | ||
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| Ok, but how tight is tight? I played last night for five hours and only got involved with about 3 hands, 2 of which I won. Am I being too much of a rock? Or did I just get bad cards? | ||
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| Re: new to Omaha 8, Risky Business, 18. Mar 2003 14:19 | ||
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| Hey Rock - You'll probably get many responses, but considering table position and the number of callers/raisers/etc in front of you, I still think that 3 hands in lightning quick internet games is completely ridiculous. At least 4 hands!! Even if you played in the first position of 9, for 5 hours, you'd still get 3 hands to play. If you folded for 4 hours and 55 minutes out of a 5 hour session against me, I'd fold when you did play. | ||
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| Re: new to Omaha 8, noiseboy, 18. Mar 2003 14:54 | ||
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| Actually I was in a low limit B&M game which went pretty slow because everybody (except me) was in and raising on every hand, also it took a while to figure out who gets how much money since there were often four or five way pots at showdown. Are you saying I should be playing four unrelated cards? I mean, I did see a few flops from the blinds when it didn't get raised, but never hit a flop from blinds. | ||
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| Re: new to Omaha 8, Risky Business, 18. Mar 2003 15:12 | ||
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| A very loose low-limit table like that is definitely hard to read, and you can get into trouble with all the raising going on....agreed. Amiably, maybe you should consider moving tables since you aren't learning or earning anyway. on 18. Mar 2003 14:54 noiseboy wrote: > Actually I was in a low limit B&M game which went pretty slow because everybody (except me) was in > and raising on every hand, also it took a while to figure out who gets how much money since there > were often four or five way pots at showdown. Are you saying I should be playing four unrelated > cards? I mean, I did see a few flops from the blinds when it didn't get raised, but never hit a > flop from blinds. | ||
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| Re: new to Omaha 8, stdioh, 19. Mar 2003 08:20 | ||
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| on 18. Mar 2003 14:02 noiseboy wrote: > Ok, but how tight is tight? I played last night for five hours and only got involved with > about 3 hands, 2 of which I won. Am I being too much of a rock? Or did I just get bad > cards? I think 1 or 2 hands an hour is probably reasonably, but it depends so much on your cards and on the action at the table. If it is really lose and passive then it's ok to be tight like that. It's boring, but it's ok. | ||
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| Re: new to Omaha 8, Paul Stine, 19. Mar 2003 08:15 | ||
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| on 18. Mar 2003 11:32 noiseboy wrote: > I have read Cloutier's book, which is very informative, but I wonder how playing > the low limit games (4/8 with a 1/2 kill) affects my strategy. Should I be > seeing more flops but playing extra-tight thereafter? > > Also, is there somewhere online that I can get good starting requirements for > these types of games where four to six players are in each pot? > > Thanks. I haven't read Cloutier's book on Omaha (maybe my brother will buy it for me for my birthday) so I can't really comment on what TJ wrote. however, Bill Boston did some interesting simulation work on starting hands in Omaha/8. He based his analysis on what he termed as a tough lineup of players at the 10-20 limit and performed the simulation using Turbo Omaha/8 (Wilson software). After at least 10,000 simulations of each starting hand (for some hands he performed 100,000 or 1,000,000) he compiled the results. He found that out of about 5300 different starting hands, about 770 had positive profit potential. (Again, this was based on simulated play, not showdown simulations.) Bill looked at high hand winning percentages, low hand winning precentages and scoop winning precentages as well as total $ won. Of his results that ones that I found most interesting were: -Of the 770 profitable hands, only 30 did not contain an Ace -You have to play hands that can with both ways. I think Bill's book is worth the investment. Paul Stine College Station, TX | ||
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| Re: new to Omaha 8, TOM WAGGONER, 19. Mar 2003 16:38 | ||
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| I agree that you have to play omaha 8 very tight. The ace is the key card in the game, because you need starters that can make the nuts, and that can go both ways. If the game is loose, and the players are predictable, I would loosen up a little, otherwise you are just leaving money on the table. It is very important to try and determine whether a bettor is betting high or low in this game for extra profit. I see players all the time raising each other with the nut low, while the high hand is just calling. | ||
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