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 What about this one?, RamDannyboy, 16. Mar 2003 14:55 | ||
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| Most of my hands come from loose to very loose games. In this particular case I have been at the table long enough to know the button and SB will play close to random cards. Anyway.... 2 new player post in MP and check their option. Button and SB limp and I raise in the BB with Jh Tc. All call and its 5 handed. Flop: 8s 9s Qs I flopped a str but staring at a 3 flush on the board. SB check and I bet out. All call. 5 handed. Turn: 2c SB check, I bet, all call except the button. 4 handed. River: Kc SB check. I bet. SB call with Qc 5h (pair). What do you think? And once again, thank for your feedback. | ||
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| Re: What about this one?, Roy Cooke, 16. Mar 2003 15:15 | ||
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| I think raising in that position with that hand pre-flop is too loose....Other than that, I think you played the hand well. Roy Cooke on 16. Mar 2003 14:55 RamDannyboy wrote: > Most of my hands come from loose to very loose games. In this particular case I > have been at the table long enough to know the button and SB will play close to > random cards. Anyway.... > > 2 new player post in MP and check their option. Button and SB limp and I raise > in the BB with Jh Tc. All call and its 5 handed. > > Flop: 8s 9s Qs > > I flopped a str but staring at a 3 flush on the board. SB check and I bet out. > All call. 5 handed. > > Turn: 2c > > SB check, I bet, all call except the button. 4 handed. > > River: Kc > > SB check. I bet. SB call with Qc 5h (pair). > > What do you think? And once again, thank for your feedback. | ||
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| Re: What about this one?, stdioh, 17. Mar 2003 09:53 | ||
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| on 16. Mar 2003 15:15 Roy Cooke wrote: > I think raising in that position with that hand pre-flop is too loose....Other than > that, I think you played the hand well. Once again, I can't disagree with Roy...though I think the raise *might* be warranted, depending on the puck. Basically, if the puck is limping when he could steal then he's either on AA or KK or total garbage. If he's on garbage, then I think a raise with JTo is ok because you want to agress and put the pressure on. If I were to raise the BB here and get reraised though I would maybe call for the flop and play very weak or might just muck then and there depending on the actions of the SB. | ||
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| Re: What about this one?, BreadnButter, 18. Mar 2003 15:05 | ||
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| I have to agree with Roy on this one. Raising from that position with a J10 offsuit will show a negative EV. BreadnButter | ||
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| Re: What about this one?, stdioh, 19. Mar 2003 08:26 | ||
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| > I have to agree with Roy on this one. Raising from that position with a J10 offsuit will > show a negative EV. Indeed, if you are a robot playing against robots this is true. If you've got a good read, I think that it can be profitable. I wouldn't say that "you should definitely play here" but I wouldn't say that it is out of the question too. I'd still call this move an "it depends" | ||
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| Re: What about this one?, Mark, 16. Mar 2003 18:46 | ||
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| > Most of my hands come from loose to very loose games. In this particular case I > have been at the table long enough to know the button and SB will play close to > random cards. Anyway.... > > 2 new player post in MP and check their option. Button and SB limp and I raise > in the BB with Jh Tc. All call and its 5 handed. > > Flop: 8s 9s Qs > > I flopped a str but staring at a 3 flush on the board. SB check and I bet out. > All call. 5 handed. > > Turn: 2c > > SB check, I bet, all call except the button. 4 handed. > > River: Kc > > SB check. I bet. SB call with Qc 5h (pair). > > What do you think? And once again, thank for your feedback. I would not have raise in the BB with J-10 offsuit. don't underestimate the disadvantage of position. Your betting for the rest of the hand was good, but you would have had to fold if some one raised, or at most check call if the raiser was a maniac. mark | ||
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| Re: What about this one?, Andrew Wells, 16. Mar 2003 18:47 | ||
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| I like everything you did except the raise before the flop. Your JTo may not be the best hand and if you do flop something, the board may get other players interested. Your raise gives anyone who flops a gut shot straight draw or bottom pair correct pot odds to see the turn for one more bet. Each one of these players can be holding any two cards so if you just call, now they may make a mistake by chasing. Your raise makes just about any call correct that catches a piece of the flop. You were able to make money this hand because of the one card flush draws that didn't get there, and because you flopped a made hand. That isn't going to happen too often. | ||
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