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 Can someone please explain..., Andrew Wells, 3. Mar 2003 20:29 | ||
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| ...why a guy who hasn't made a raise in over two hours suddenly gets excited enough to cap it for $60 out of the small blind. What was interesting enough to make this play? Nothing less than 4c2c which happened to flop a draw that found a club on the river! Maybe he was born in 1942, or April 2nd., or something just as mysterious. Maybe he was stuck more than a rack with only about $150 left in his stack, and decided it was time to go for broke. But that makes little sense considering he would have the button next hand. Maybe he was tired of getting played at, and was ready to leave. Does anyone else make this sort of unusual play who would be willing to offer some explaination, even if irrational? | ||
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| Re: Can someone please explain..., stdioh, 4. Mar 2003 07:48 | ||
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| on 3. Mar 2003 20:29 Andrew Wells wrote: > ...why a guy who hasn't made a raise in over two hours suddenly gets excited > enough to cap it for $60 out of the small blind. What was interesting enough to > make this play? Nothing less than 4c2c which happened to flop a draw that found > a club on the river! Maybe he was born in 1942, or April 2nd., or something just > as mysterious. Maybe he was stuck more than a rack with only about $150 left in > his stack, and decided it was time to go for broke. But that makes little sense > considering he would have the button next hand. Maybe he was tired of getting > played at, and was ready to leave. Does anyone else make this sort of unusual > play who would be willing to offer some explaination, even if irrational? One word: deception. Here's a guy who's running cold and knows that the table is perceiving him as a rock, so he's going to play some shizzit cards in hopes of either folding everybody out and taking down a big pot, or advertising to get more action when he does have a hand. He was lucky enough to actually make a hand with that garbage and gets a big pot *and* advertising value. So now when he raises his AA, not everybody automatically mucks and he gets paid off. | ||
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| Re: Can someone please explain..., noiseboy, 4. Mar 2003 09:19 | ||
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| Yeah, I'll do this advertising bit once in a while, not more than once a session. I'm actually a pretty tight player but recently I played a 4-6 suited from first position. I figured the game is loose so maybe I could sneak in for one bet. Unfortunately, someone raised, which I called, but then the flop came with a straight-flush draw for me. With so many outs, I'm betting it, and no one has me on small cards since I came in from up front. I caught the straight, won a huge pot, put one player with a pocket pair on tilt, and got even more callers on all my real hands for several hours after than. But I know that the play might not be technically correct, only in a loose game could I get away with that type of play. | ||
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| Re: Can someone please explain..., Andrew Wells, 4. Mar 2003 18:06 | ||
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| Would you consider making this sort of play in a normal aggressive 15-30 game? I don't even want to think that players try this stuff above 3-6. I suppose he could have already crossed Caro's "threshold of pain", and just wanted to mess with everyone at the table. | ||
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| Re: Can someone please explain..., noiseboy, 6. Mar 2003 11:28 | ||
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| obviously I wouldn't try to sneak in with low suited cards if the game was aggressive. Like I said, I only do something crazy once in a while, especially in passive games where you can sneak in out of position and not have to call two bets. And you have to hit the flop REALLY hard. Sometimes people will do this with a smallish pair when they aren't getting enough action on their hands. If you hit a set and win a hand with a small pair, it sticks in people's minds, "OH he's a fish playing a pair that small up front", then when you are up front with a real hand, you get callers. Believe me, it's not the type of thing I would try to do very often or under unfavorable game conditions. | ||
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| Re: Can someone please explain..., Andrew Wells, 4. Mar 2003 18:01 | ||
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| I would figure the deception would take the form of not playing a premium hand fast before the flop, but you have a valid point. I just don't see the game this way often enough I guess. I caught a huge break that hand when the cutoff reraised before the flop, otherwise I get a set of nines cracked on the button. | ||
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