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the luck factor, jake-free, 23. Feb 2003 05:54
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does a short game has a lower luck factor than a full game?
and if so than why?
good luck
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Re: the luck factor, chasepoker, 23. Feb 2003 09:03
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Do you mean sort handed or short time span, i.e a small tourny ?

Short handed there is a lot more skill involved in my opinion as you are having to make a lot more decisions and it is decisions i poker that deermines the skill.

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Re: the luck factor, Charles Kincy, 23. Feb 2003 14:19
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On the other hand, in short-handed games you have to play a lot more hands. Since poor players already play a lot of hands, you lose a significant part of your edge against these players.
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Re: the luck factor, Roy Cooke, 23. Feb 2003 16:54
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Hi

Short handed games require better "play of hand" skills. Patience becomes a much lower factor as shorthanded games require that more hands be played. The swings are higher in short gmaes, but the better players have a higher hourly rate.

Roy Cooke

on 23. Feb 2003 05:54 jake-free wrote:
> does a short game has a lower luck factor than a full game?
> and if so than why?
> good luck
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Re: the luck factor, stdioh, 24. Feb 2003 06:35
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on 23. Feb 2003 16:54 Roy Cooke wrote:
> Hi
>
> Short handed games require better "play of hand" skills. Patience becomes a much
> lower factor as shorthanded games require that more hands be played. The swings are
> higher in short gmaes, but the better players have a higher hourly rate.
>
> Roy Cooke
>
> on 23. Feb 2003 05:54 jake-free wrote:
> > does a short game has a lower luck factor than a full game?
> > and if so than why?
> > good luck

So far I don't think I've ever disagreed with you Roy. Indeed, bad players play better shorthanded, but you can still tear strips off them because you have a much easier time isolating them and playing postflop against them well. But yes, since you're playing more hands per hour your swinginess goes way up.

On the weekend, I was tempted to play heads-up $50-$100 with "send it," a whale who plays in Brantford. He was playing the 10-20 for a while before moving to the 20-40, and then using his pull with the casino to get a 50-100 opened. He raises every hand. He went all-in at the 20-40 a couple of weeks ago (and it is limit) for $750 preflop with 67o. Anyhow, he got the powers that be to create him a 50-100 table and he sat there all alone. None of the big 20-40/50-100 pros were around and nobody seemed to have noticed that he was waiting there and I was very tempted to play him...I just don't have the roll for it. Though I know that I'm 20 times the player that he is, all I need is to go all in with my aces against his 67o and have him catch. Now if he is playing 20-40 and there's another fish there, then I can be comfortable moving up in limit because I can probably still make 1 BB/hour even against the better players by just staying out of their way and targetting the fish, but playing heads-up with one big fish (with an enormous bankroll) is out of my league.
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Re: the luck factor, ColDan, 24. Feb 2003 11:25
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There's no such thing as "luck" (or even a "rush"). It's all long-term probability squeezed into a short timeframe...like a single hand or a single tournament or even a single month.

Pretty useless info? Well, just don't blame the cards, as so many of us have a tendancy to do. Probability runs for and against. Let your constant honing of your skills make the difference.
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