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 Poker on TV- can it really work?, Easy E, 19. Feb 2003 13:02 | ||
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| Can poker really work on (and gain from) TV? I was thinking about this after watching the 2002 WSOP on ESPN. My general feeling was, if I stepped back from my obsessive enjoyment of poker, with "insider's knowledge" as it were (more than most people who haven't played, or only played at home, that is) that the 2002 WSOP was generally boring to watch, as a 2-hour televised event. Gods know that if they showed all of the folding in between the "actual" hands, it would be a ratings nightmare after 15 minutes. I, as a poker addict, didn't really think all that much of the production (not in quality, but in general viewing interest value). so how is poker on TV going to capture the recreational player, and especially the non-poker inclined general public? Again, I don't see this as a flaw of whoever did the production on ESPN's behalf, but as a general flaw in the concept of poker as a televised "sport." I really don't see how any sustainable interest (a key for advertisers to support this) can be maintained by poker, since I don't see as television-friendly. How can it be, when the true drama takes more knowledge and understanding and patience than most of the TV-watching public will have? How interesting can it be to see people shove all in and make others fold, or have them call and not have any more betting, just random luck as the cards come out? Maybe this is more a function of big bet vs. limit poker, maybe not And if poker can't sustain and grow an audience, how can poker GAIN from being on television? What gain do the players get from revealing their cards (the World Poker Tour will also be doing this, correct?) if they won't benefit from large numbers of new people playing in tournaments and ring games? Do any of you, admitted poker addicts (or, more PC, " people predisposed to enjoy poker television broadcasts") know of non-poker people who enjoyed the telecast, or were more intrigued about playing poker due to some of the many specials that have been shown? I leave aside the Rounders phenomenon. | ||
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| Re: Poker on TV- can it really work?, RickyK, 19. Feb 2003 14:35 | ||
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| All i can comment on is Televised poker in England which falls into a choice of 2 shows one called Late Night Poker ( No Limit - big name players 10 runners condensed into a 1 hour show, very well done watchable for both players and non-players ). The other is the Poker MIllion ( Again No limit - big name European players, 6 runners made into a pretty drawn out affair 3hours i think, a bit too long and not enough explaination for non players ) I do think poker has a future on TV if it presented right, meaning an easy game to learn ( No Limit) highights of tourny's not whole 10 hours shows, big name players with a bit of character and good commentators who can relate the basics as well as the more subtle aspects of the game. In the UK a lot of the reason for the explosion of the game IMHO is due specificly to the Late Night Poker show which introduced a lot of people to the game. Dont really now if that is of interest to anyone but just thought you might like to know ! | ||
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| I was hoping someone would chime in from across the pond, Easy E, 19. Feb 2003 17:29 | ||
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| I'd heard that the Late Night Poker had been attributed with creating some interest over there... hopefully the WPT and others affect here in the same manner also. | ||
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| Re: Poker on TV- can it really work?, gary ford, 26. Feb 2003 10:31 | ||
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| THE LAST LINE OF YOUR COMMENTS TELLS THE ANSWER--YOU CANT IGNORE THE ROUNDERS FACTOR. YOUNG PLAYERS WERE OBSESSED WITH THAT MOVIE AS A MOVIE FIRST AND POKER SECOND. I AGREE THAT THE TELECASTS ARE BORING AND THE GAME AS PLAYED IS BORING.PROFESSIONAL TV PRODUCERS AND DIRECTORS HAVE TO ESTABLISH DRAMA AND A STORYLINE SAD AS IT MAY SEEM SEX HAS TO BE PART OF THIS TOO. WHY DO YOU THINK THERE ARE RING GIRLS? | ||
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