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winning limit holdem tournaments, jake-free, 18. Feb 2003 10:50
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What is the number one prerequisit for winning limit holdem tournaments :1]Skill 2]Luck 3]Discipline
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Re: winning limit holdem tournaments, stdioh, 18. Feb 2003 11:52
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on 18. Feb 2003 10:50 jake-free wrote:
> What is the number one prerequisit for winning limit holdem tournaments :1]Skill
> 2]Luck 3]Discipline

Good question. First comes discipline. When you're at the start of a limit tournament it plays like a ring game, so discipline and all around good play is most important. As the limits grow and you and other players start to get under the 20 BB level (that's usually where I try hard to stay ahead of in a limit tourney) it becomes more a game of skill and plays more like a no-limit tourney. Then when you're the short stack, even though you've done right, etc, etc, you're looking for a fortunate toss of the dice to get you back to a skill position.

I'd say that you need skill and discipline in order to money in a goodly number of tournament and all three to win more than your share.
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Re: winning limit holdem tournaments, MighyPip, 18. Feb 2003 18:36
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Are we taling re-buy tourneys here, 'coz in my experience its fair to play loose initially until u get a stack, then play tighter until end of buy-ins. After buy-ins with a commanding chip position, aggressive play is best. Closer to final table then tighten up, before final table frenzy, when u should remember that less players = more u can win with
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Re: winning limit holdem tournaments, stdioh, 19. Feb 2003 17:38
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on 18. Feb 2003 18:36 MighyPip wrote:
> Are we taling re-buy tourneys here, 'coz in my experience its fair to play loose initially
> until u get a stack, then play tighter until end of buy-ins. After buy-ins with a
> commanding chip position, aggressive play is best. Closer to final table then tighten up,
> before final table frenzy, when u should remember that less players = more u can win with

Indeed, when there are rebuys, it is the correct strategy to attempt to double up early on. I like to think of my chip stack in a tournament logarithmically. 0 is still 0 and 100% of the chips in play is infinitely high. Draw a smoothe curve and see that once you have half the chips you may as well have them all, but when you have very few, they become very important. When you can rebuy, the bottom end of the curve becomes concave up and piecewise and you all of a sudden have something less than worthless with a tiny stack...get rid of your chips and buy back in.
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Re: winning limit holdem tournaments, flintsword, 20. Feb 2003 19:41
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Understanding the tournament structure and the way it changes as the tournament progresses is an important skill. There was a "neat" article on this written by the English writer Paul Samuels. The link to this particular article is:

http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/archives/samuel13.htm

Tournaments are different from ring games, since the objectives are different. Limit tournaments mean you have to maintain a certain amount of activity to keep your head above the 20BB one respondent suggested, which sounds good to me. Getting ahead in a limit tournament with a bigger stack is very, very good news. In NL anything can happen. gl.
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