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 blind play, Jay, 4. Feb 2003 12:19 | ||
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| I realize the weakest hole in my game seems to be play out of the blinds----invariably in the SB get gapped suited cards with 3-4 limpers and finish off the bet only to get punisheed by chasing the flush draw that appears on the flop and not getting there or catching a piece of the flop and calling for perceived value only to get out kicked on the river or before----should I be tossing these hands and only betting stronger holdings or am I giving up too much every cycle......Jay | ||
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| Re: blind play, Andrew Wells, 4. Feb 2003 15:44 | ||
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| When you have four limpers, and a player in the big blind who is not over aggressive, you're getting 9:1 in a 10-20 game to complete the bet. This is enough to see if the flop fits your suited gapper hands. If you are playing 3-6 or 5-10 then you are no longer getting 9:1 because the small blind is less than 1/2 a bet. Specifically with 3-6 you would want to play with only the better suited one-gappers, not weaker than 86s. At 5-10 you're getting better odds, so you might play these a little lower. If I'm getting the full 9:1 on my call I'll play some suited two-gappers if the table is soft, even hands like 63s. At 15-30 with a full small blind you can play just about anything, but you seldom find it unraised before it gets back to your small blind, and you have to be careful not to play total trash when the player on your left raises out of the big blind too much. That said, maybe you are not doing enough checkraising out of the blind positions after the flop with your good hands. In order to get decent value from the blinds since you are out of position for the rest of the hand, you need to let the players know that when you check it doesn't always mean you have a weak hand or a draw. Checkraising the flop with two pairs, top pair good kicker, and even AK or AQ as unimproved overcards more often should help when you have other hands where you would prefer everyone checks around. Let them fear the possibility of a checkraise from early position, it is the only way you're going to get someone to give a free card. Of course you could have just had a bad run of not catching your good draws out of the small blind, that happens. | ||
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| Re: blind play, PiersS, 5. Feb 2003 14:19 | ||
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| As long as you make sure you always do your Outs to Pot/Implied odds calculation on the flop and follow the result, then you won't loose money in the long run. If you are loosing more than half a small bet a time in the small blind, its probably that you get your flop play wrong, but might be because you have not played enough hands to even things out. | ||
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