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 Paranoid of tells, Joel, 1. Feb 2003 15:24 | ||
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| With all I've been reading about tells, I've found that i've become overly self concience of my own behavor at the table. Given that I'm not confident that I can hide my reaction to the hands I hold, I have been trying a tactic of telling myself that I hold much better hands than I actually do ALL of the time. In my mind every hand is Aces or the nuts until I either show down or fold. I figure if I'm going to give off tells, I'm better off overloading anybody that is trying to read me than trying to hide it. Opinions on this? | ||
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| Re: Paranoid of tells, Charles Kincy, 1. Feb 2003 16:09 | ||
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| there's nothing you can do about it except avoid games where there are likely to be several tell readers | ||
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| Re: Paranoid of tells, Lash, 1. Feb 2003 16:42 | ||
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| If you study material on tells and then seriously focus on tells it is natural to become a bit paranoid. The most basic way to overcome the paranoia is by developing discipline in all of your actions at the table. Make control of your actions habitual so you do not have to concentrate on it. In other words... determine a way you want to carry yourself (posture, betting motions, breathing, etc.) and stick with it. Of course only if it is comfortable. I think what you describe (convincing yourself you have the nut monster at all times) is over kill and will prove counter-productive at times. It just requires to much concentration. Even if your goal was to convey an overpowering image, you'd be better off just focusing on making all your actions confident and consistent. Once you find a comfortable consistent way to carry yourself in a game there are two main reasons I would deviate: 1) A different image is worth the risk and / or no one in the game is paying attention. ie. you don't want to look too serious 2) A skilled reader (and they are rare) is in the game and a situation arises where you can feed him a subtle reverse tell. The main thing to remember is to not worry about it too much. Most players are so inattentive it is amazing sometimes. Tells alone will not get you, or any other player very far. Your best chance is to find a comfortable way to carry yourself and let the other guy make mistakes. | ||
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| Re: Paranoid of tells, Laredo, 1. Feb 2003 19:46 | ||
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| Joel, Most of the good players I have played with have always told me to watch the hands of opponents when they bet or check, etc...this may be a tell of yours that you are not aware of. One other thing...practice your betting and checking and raising...motions, i.e., grabbing placing your chips in the pot, and voice control. You may not be aware of your tells to other players...whatever you do or however you do it...be consistent. Be consistently smooth in all your motions whether you have a monster or a dog, whether you are raising, bluffing, or calling, or checking...be consistent...hope this helps...i know the advice given to me has helped me very much... | ||
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| Re: Paranoid of tells, Kevin J, 2. Feb 2003 10:09 | ||
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| A good golfer develops a pre-shot routine. Regardless of the shot he faces he goes through the same motions before taking his shot. You can do this in poker too. A very good player I know pauses 1 second before taking any action. He'll pause-fold, pause-bet, pause-raise, EVERY time! The EXACT same way! This player has no tells.. | ||
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| Re: Paranoid of tells, whiskeytown, 2. Feb 2003 14:53 | ||
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| without a doubt, studying tells is the best way to ensure you're going to catch yours.... and it's not just the flop...I quickly realized I had a bad habit of turning away from the board when my money card (3rd card to a high flush, for example) hit the turn or river....my subconscicous told me to act like it was an unimportant card, when it was gold.. so yes, practice routine...always cap your cards with the same style of chips...(in tourneys, I think I used to subconsiciously put more chips on a hand I was gonna play...sort of a MAKE sure they don't get mucked thing) - But study other tells...it'll really make you a better player over time - I like Mike's Video tapes over the book - (i've said that b4....just easier to see what we're talking about then still pictures) - but then you realize it more when you do it...that's probably more important the trying to spot the tells of players....a good defense can usually kick the ass of a good offense...(ask Tampa Bay that one) RB ---------------- I'm like a wino with a twenty dollar bill, forever and eternally yours. - Bill Mallonee | ||
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