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 Advice for the young wannabe pros, HUSTLER81, 30. Nov 2002 07:27 | ||
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| This is a common topic on all forums and each thread is filled with negative posts about going pro, for a good reason. Clearly there are more downs than there are ups. However, what seems like a bad lifestyle for some people (the negative posters) may not be so bad for YOU. I am also a young(21) wannabe so I'm approaching this from a different angle. What do YOU yourself have to lose? That is the question you need to ask. For me: 21, single, love poker, love women (and there are LOTS of them in Vegas), ambitious, dont know what I want to do career wise, hate the small town life that I've been brought up in, wouldn't really miss the family, independent, wanna do something cool with my life before I become a working stiff at a job I hate, would kick myself if I didnt try, etc., etc., etc., it will be quite an expirience. So, What do I have to lose? Not a damn thing. But if you have a family that will totally look down on this, or some other part of your life that might be changed negatively then it's probably not a good idea. At the age of 17 though, I would have to suggest at least giving college a try if there is anything, career-wise, you are remotely interested in. In closing I'll say to keep reading and studying. And for you guys who take the game seriously you should probably try to sneak into a card room or even get a fake ID so that you can get some good expirience in. I just turned 21 last month and I've learned so much more from 4 live action sessions than I have in the two years or so reading all of the books and forums. Good Luck. P.S. You need to be good too. | ||
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| Re: Advice for the young wannabe pros, Roy Cooke, 1. Dec 2002 16:54 | ||
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| Yes..I understand the equation is different for different people. However, keep in mind it is a tough life with a tough road to home. You might want to have a plan B in store! Roy Cooke | ||
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| Re: Advice for the young wannabe pros, Maverick, 2. Dec 2002 09:56 | ||
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| Having done nothing but play poker for a living for years while in college, I can tell you a few things: 1. Reading and studying help, but there are no books that adequately cover all the betting situations you'll encounter in various games against various opponents. That, alone, will cost you a bundle in your education. 2. Being new, you'll need an even bigger bankroll than a pro needs because you'll be losing. If you don't have a big enough bankroll, you won't be able to play consistently enough to learn and remember the lessons you've learned. 3. (This is my own opinion) You shouldn't start out in Vegas. In fact, you should only start out in a small room. In big casinos, the lineup changes so frequently, you won't have the chance to see the same actions by a player enough to develop your knowledge base of tactics and situations vs various types of players. If you can't develop enough to dominate this small room, you will never stand a chance at being a pro in vegas. 4. Don't believe the hype and bullshit you hear about "pros" in poker. Nearly all of them live very subpar, shitty, near bankrupt lives. You definitely CAN make a living at poker, but probably NOT at the level most of these people claim. My advice is to never attempt to be a pro at tables larger than the typical tourist or loser will play...which is probably around $3/6. You can make a good living off small tables. Alot of "pros" have pipe dreams about there being these whales who they think inhabit large games, but all you will find is alot of "pros" bankrupting each other on these tables. These are just a few concepts you might want to be aware. Maverick | ||
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| Re: Advice for the young wannabe pros, Mark, 2. Dec 2002 13:48 | ||
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| > 4. Don't believe the hype and bullshit you hear about "pros" in poker. Nearly all > of them live very subpar, shitty, near bankrupt lives. You definitely CAN make a > living at poker, but probably NOT at the level most of these people claim. My advice > is to never attempt to be a pro at tables larger than the typical tourist or loser > will play...which is probably around $3/6. You can make a good living off small > tables. Alot of "pros" have pipe dreams about there being these whales who they > think inhabit large games, but all you will find is alot of "pros" bankrupting each > other on these tables. I haven't been playing that long and I don't play the larger limits, but from what I hear at my local card room, this is true. If you search for the whales they sometimes appear. I hate to disagree with you when I don't seem to have the same experience you do, but.... While I was playing my usual $5-10 game I was talking to a 4-6 times a week $20-40 player (he was sitting in because the bigger game hadn't started yet) he pointed out a player at a 20-40 round by round game and stated that player was the worst in the card room, he just had alot of money. He went on to say that anytime this particular player was at a table he would usually show a good profit. So, sometimes there are fish in the sea, you just need to find them. Mark | ||
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| Re: Advice for the young wannabe pros, jEROME95, 13. Dec 2002 05:46 | ||
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| on 2. Dec 2002 13:48 Mark wrote: > > > 4. Don't believe the hype and bullshit you hear about "pros" in poker. Nearly all > > of them live very subpar, shitty, near bankrupt lives. You definitely CAN make a > > living at poker, but probably NOT at the level most of these people claim. My advice > > > is to never attempt to be a pro at tables larger than the typical tourist or loser > > will play...which is probably around $3/6. You can make a good living off small > > tables. Alot of "pros" have pipe dreams about there being these whales who they > > think inhabit large games, but all you will find is alot of "pros" bankrupting each > > other on these tables. > > I haven't been playing that long and I don't play the larger limits, but from what I hear > at my local card room, this is true. If you search for the whales they sometimes > appear. > > I hate to disagree with you when I don't seem to have the same experience you do, > but.... > > While I was playing my usual $5-10 game I was talking to a 4-6 times a week $20-40 player > (he was sitting in because the bigger game hadn't started yet) he pointed out a player at > a 20-40 round by round game and stated that player was the worst in the card room, he just > had alot of money. He went on to say that anytime this particular player was at a table > he would usually show a good profit. > > So, sometimes there are fish in the sea, you just need to find them. > > Mark > Get a grip buddy | ||
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| Re: Advice for the young wannabe pros, Jacob, 3. Dec 2002 13:20 | ||
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| I have been playing poker for the last 3,5 years. Im not a BIG winner but considering other alternatives for a student to make money, playing poker has been a great/fun/thrilling way 2 make about 18-20 ks extra a year. My experience is limited to lower limits 3/6 - 10/20 but I know very young people who made a great deal more going 2 the higher limits such as 20/40 and some even 100/200 and I c no reason why these people or myself for that matter shouldnt be able to continue making money playing poker as a career, I have other plans though, but Ill never stop playing poker, once u have done it on a serious level its in your blood. My simple point is: the ways in which a 22 year old student can make 80-120 ks a year are very limited and it is a great start on these peoples lifes. Straightflush Jacob | ||
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| Re: Advice for the young wannabe pros, jEROME95, 13. Dec 2002 04:59 | ||
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| on 30. Nov 2002 07:27 HUSTLER81 wrote: > This is a common topic on all forums and each thread is filled with negative > posts about going pro, for a good reason. Clearly there are more downs than > there are ups. However, what seems like a bad lifestyle for some people (the > negative posters) may not be so bad for YOU. I am also a young(21) wannabe so > I'm approaching this from a different angle. > > What do YOU yourself have to lose? That is the question you need to ask. For > me: 21, single, love poker, love women (and there are LOTS of them in Vegas), > ambitious, dont know what I want to do career wise, hate the small town life > that I've been brought up in, wouldn't really miss the family, independent, > wanna do something cool with my life before I become a working stiff at a job I > hate, would kick myself if I didnt try, etc., etc., etc., it will be quite an > expirience. So, What do I have to lose? Not a damn thing. But if you have a > family that will totally look down on this, or some other part of your life that > might be changed negatively then it's probably not a good idea. > > At the age of 17 though, I would have to suggest at least giving college a try > if there is anything, career-wise, you are remotely interested in. > > In closing I'll say to keep reading and studying. And for you guys who take the > game seriously you should probably try to sneak into a card room or even get a > fake ID so that you can get some good expirience in. I just turned 21 last month > and I've learned so much more from 4 live action sessions than I have in the two > years or so reading all of the books and forums. Good Luck. > > P.S. You need to be good too. > > I once went 1st 1st 1st 1st 4th 1st 1st on Paradise. Its almost imposible to make it as a pro unless you have a lot of angles. Its a dream. Its money. To play poker you need money.... LOTS OF MONEY I have been struggling for years... and i'm a pretty good player. I mean if we could play a super bowl I'd want to be there to claim something ... players are getting better on Paradise it aint a walk in the park online. Online Poker is Harder to beat than a real game. You have more information to use in a real game. I know where I could make a very nice score in Eagle Pass Texas. I havent been there in over a year. Its just money waiting to be taken. The players probably improved some.... they built a brand new casino last year. That place is probably real cool and stuff now. TO make it at a pro u must be at least a genius poker player like myself AND a million other things. I was just thinking about rounders today... I was thinking about when Matt Damon goes... something like... " I just chopped one of his legs out in the first hand... now all i have to do is lean on him" Yeah Right dude. I don't know dude J | ||
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