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5/10 Hand analysis (Online), Hatchet Harry, 29. Nov 2002 12:47
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I'm hoping the attached is a straightforward play regardless of result, but I'm trying to fine tune my game so if anybody has any comments of interest i'd be glad to hear them!

$5/$10 Texas Hold'em
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Loose Aggresive Player
Seat 4: Tight Passive
Seat 5: HatchetHarry (Off 'is rocker!)
Seat 10: Loose Passive
Dealt to HatchetHarry [ Qh ]
Dealt to HatchetHarry [ Qc ]
Seat 1: Call ($5)
Seat 4: Call ($5)
HatchetHarry: Raise ($10)
Seat 10: Call ($5)
Seat 1: Call ($5)
Seat 4: Call ($5)
FLOP [ Tc 8s Ts ]
Seat 10: Bet ($5)
Seat 1: Fold
Seat 4: Fold
HatchetHarry: Raise ($10)
Seat 10 : Call ($5)
TURN: [ Tc 8s Ts ] [ Th ]
Seat 10 : Check
HatchetHarry: Bet ($10)
Seat 10 : Call ($10)
RIVER: [ Tc 8s Ts Th ] [ Qd ]
Seat 10 : Check
HatchetHarry: Bet ($10)
Seat 10 : Call ($10)

My main question is should I have raised on the flop even though i had been bet into by the BB with a pair on the board? (My reasoning for the raise was to define my hand and to get value on any draw!)

Thanks
HH
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Re: 5/10 Hand analysis (Online), Mark, 29. Nov 2002 12:59
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Your flop raise was fine against a loose opponent (assuming those kinds of flops don't scare him off). It helped to define the hand as you wanted, but if he had a 10, you set him up for a check-raise on the turn, no matter what fell.

What did he have? A-8 or K-8?

Mark
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Re: 5/10 Hand analysis (Online), Hatchet Harry, 30. Nov 2002 06:10
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Thx,

he ended up showing me 5-8 off so i'd given myself an ulcer for no reason -)

Regards
HH
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Re: 5/10 Hand analysis (Online), Charles Kincy, 29. Nov 2002 23:39
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You played it fine. Before taking the lead with confidence, though, you need to have a feel for what your opponent does when the have a T vs. what they do with an 8.

What would you have done if the opponent check-raised the turn?
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Re: 5/10 Hand analysis (Online), Hatchet Harry, 30. Nov 2002 06:07
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The player in question had'nt made any moves that i'd seen in the game, so I had him down for either 2 pair, flush draw and betting for value or he'd hit trips. If he'd re-raised me on the flop i probably woulda paid him off there and then.
I would've had more problems getting off the hand if he'd called the flop raise and check raised the turn as I would've believed he would have had to re-raise on the flop if he'd hit trips. With this in mind i probably woulda called it down. As it happens i probably given this player too much respect as he was silly enough to show me his 5-8 off. I know I had been playing solid enough for my bets to stand up but it seemed he'd ignored this.
I am not happy with my opponent classification methods, but i am yet to find any decent litreture which goes into any depth on opponent classification. Because i play most of my poker online, I tend to classify my opponents in the first 30 hands or so, giving them a tag of loose / tight & passive or aggresive. If I have no information then I automatically give the player respect.
I tend to discipline myself to stick by these straw poll classifications, but I think I'm probably loosing alot of equity because of it.

Still rome was'nt built in a day and this time i won the battle.

Thanks for the comments.
HH
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Re: 5/10 Hand analysis (Online), Roy Cooke, 1. Dec 2002 16:57
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Yes..I would raise in that spot unless I knew the player would be VERY unlikely to bet without a ten!

Roy Cooke
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