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 $80-$160 Hand, Jim Brier, 18. Oct 2002 23:25 | ||
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| This is a 9-handed $80-$160 game at the Bellagio. I open with a raise to $160 under-the-gun having the As-Kd. Another early player cold-calls. A middle player makes it $240. The button calls. The small blind, a regular player in this game, now makes it $320. Everyone calls. There is $1920 in the pot and six players. The flop is: Ac-Jh-9c, giving me top pair, top kicker. The small blind comes out betting. The big blind calls. I raise to $160. The next player folds. The middle player, who had 3-bet preflop, makes it $240 and it looks like he is close to going all-in. The button folds. The small blind folds. The big blind calls. I call. There is $2720 in the pot and three players. The turn is the 7c. The big blind checks. I check. The middle player goes all-in by betting $60. The big blind calls. What should I do? Second question: If the river is a blank and the big blind checks again, what should I do? I will post the results later. | ||
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| Re: $80-$160 Hand, Trey, 19. Oct 2002 00:28 | ||
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| Seems to me, you complete the bet, and bet the river if a blank which does not make four to a flush hits. The all in player could have a wide variety of hands, but I would put the BB on a worse ace. Of course, that could be the classic "putting him on a hand I can beat" thinking. Any add'l info on the players might change that thinking. | ||
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| Re: $80-$160 Hand, Roy Cooke, 19. Oct 2002 12:13 | ||
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| Hi Jim Well since you have checked the turn and cannot raise the $60 bet as it is less than half of the bet......you can only call once you checked....I would have reraised the flop and put the middle position player all-in. This limits future action to between myself and the big blind. The middle position player is going all-in against you no matter what...You can get more value off the big blind or define your hand and maybe make a laydown (I am not sure of the texture of the players in this situation). If the big blind checks the river in the scenario in which you played the hand.....I would bet! Roy Cooke on 18. Oct 2002 23:25 Jim Brier wrote: > This is a 9-handed $80-$160 game at the Bellagio. I open with a raise to $160 > under-the-gun having the As-Kd. Another early player cold-calls. A middle player > makes it $240. The button calls. The small blind, a regular player in this game, > now makes it $320. Everyone calls. There is $1920 in the pot and six players. > The flop is: Ac-Jh-9c, giving me top pair, top kicker. The small blind comes out > betting. The big blind calls. I raise to $160. The next player folds. The middle > player, who had 3-bet preflop, makes it $240 and it looks like he is close to > going all-in. The button folds. The small blind folds. The big blind calls. I > call. There is $2720 in the pot and three players. The turn is the 7c. The big > blind checks. I check. The middle player goes all-in by betting $60. The big > blind calls. What should I do? > > Second question: If the river is a blank and the big blind checks again, what > should I do? > > I will post the results later. | ||
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| Re: $80-$160 Hand, Jim Brier, 19. Oct 2002 16:05 | ||
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| Since I checked, I could only call being that the all-in bet was less than one-half the normal turn bet. The river was a blank. The big blind checked. I checked. I won as the big blind mucked. The all-in player had A-Q. I made some mistakes on this hand despite winning a large pot. First, I failed to notice that the 3-bettor was on the verge of going all-in. Second, I simply gave him a much better hand than he actually had. A player who is about to go all-in will frequently pump the pot on shaded values hoping to get lucky, otherwise he will usually go home. Third, I forgot to try to generate a side pot with the big blind who had shown no strength so far other than just calling bets and raises. Fourth, I should have at least bet the river. I think I suffered from "the pot is big enough" syndrome. With all that money at stake, the big blind might well call with any pair hoping by some miracle that his hand is good. Thanks for the responses. | ||
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| Re: $80-$160 Hand, Charles Kincy, 20. Oct 2002 14:12 | ||
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| So does this mean in general that one should err on the side of overplaying their hand if someone is nearly all in? | ||
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| Re: $80-$160 Hand, Jim Brier, 20. Oct 2002 14:43 | ||
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| Perhaps. I am not sure. It depends on the specifics. But in general, it is critically important to know who might be going all-in and recognize the fact that an all-in player is frequently betting and raising on hands that may not merit that much action. | ||
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| Re: $80-$160 Hand, Jesse Richman, 27. Oct 2002 19:12 | ||
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| This is a piece of information I've often seen bandied about, and at least in my experience (mostly 5-10 to 15-30) its just not true. At the limits I play, players usually seem to hold back from pushing those last chips in until they hit at least top pair (or a big draw). Maybe this changes as you move up? | ||
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