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 I am back, mickblueeyes, 17. Oct 2002 16:45 | ||
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| Well I am back after a month or so hiatus from posting and playing. I had stopped playing poker altogether from Roy and Mike's suggestion. Let's hope the losing streak is over! I am gonna give stud a chance again over at PP and see what can happen. I am going to brush up on some of my stud books and go after it again. I will let ya know! | ||
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| Re: I am back, Mike Caro, 17. Oct 2002 18:11 | ||
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| on 17. Oct 2002 16:45 mickblueeyes wrote: > Well I am back after a month or so hiatus from posting and playing. I had > stopped playing poker altogether from Roy and Mike's suggestion. Let's hope the > losing streak is over! I am gonna give stud a chance again over at PP and see > what can happen. I am going to brush up on some of my stud books and go after it > again. I will let ya know! Hi, Mick -- Glad to hear it. Hope you're rejuvenated and have a great new winning outlook. Let us know how you fare. I think you did the right thing. Sometimes it's best to walk away for a while, when poker becomes too frustrating. Straight Flushes, Mike Caro | ||
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| Re: I am back, JJKerr, 18. Oct 2002 06:26 | ||
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| You want some advice... stay away from stud... especially I think online stud... It is a very crazy game filled w/ crazy decisions... and I think that Holdem is better suited for the online profit player. I Think that in stud you need to use tells and to know what kind of opponents your up against. This provides a lot of information for you to make well(er) informed decisions The fact is in online stud players hands are very much a suprise w/ 3 hole cards. I think it makes you call to often on the river w/ weak hands like one big pair given the pot odds at the end not knowing your players. To tell you the truth... when ever I have played stud lately online I get my ass beat ... so now I play just a little while and I get out when things don't go good. And I go to holdem where the decisions are more cut and dried. In stud things can change rapidly. I still like stud... I've made some pretty good scores in Eagle Pass and I play it there... (They got an awsome 1-6 ... $1 ante).. All stud games need an ante like this ... it makes the game Action packed. Yo I'm out Peace 40sac | ||
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| Re: I am back, Charles Kincy, 20. Oct 2002 14:37 | ||
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| on 18. Oct 2002 06:26 JJKerr wrote: > You want some advice... stay away from stud... especially I think online stud... It > is a very crazy game filled w/ crazy decisions... and I think that Holdem is better > suited for the online profit player. I Think that in stud you need to use tells and > to know what kind of opponents your up against. This provides a lot of information > for you to make well(er) informed decisions If the confusion is caused by opponents' overplaying their hands, how can this be a bad thing? > The fact is in online stud players hands are very much a suprise w/ 3 hole cards. I > think it makes you call to often on the river w/ weak hands like one big pair given > the pot odds at the end not knowing your players. Again, if one pair is ever good in these situations, why is this bad? It might be a high-variance game, but high-variance games are usually worth more to you in the long run. | ||
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| Re: I am back, JJKerr, 22. Oct 2002 02:03 | ||
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| on 20. Oct 2002 14:37 Charles Kincy wrote: > on 18. Oct 2002 06:26 JJKerr wrote: > > You want some advice... stay away from stud... especially I think online stud... It > > is a very crazy game filled w/ crazy decisions... and I think that Holdem is better > > suited for the online profit player. I Think that in stud you need to use tells and > > to know what kind of opponents your up against. This provides a lot of information > > for you to make well(er) informed decisions > > If the confusion is caused by opponents' overplaying their hands, how can this be a bad > thing? > > > The fact is in online stud players hands are very much a suprise w/ 3 hole cards. I > > think it makes you call to often on the river w/ weak hands like one big pair given > > the pot odds at the end not knowing your players. > > Again, if one pair is ever good in these situations, why is this bad? > > It might be a high-variance game, but high-variance games are usually worth more to you > in the long run. Look... pal... cool it w/ your high variance low smariance. mam-bii pamm-be >>Should I elaborate>> BULLSHIT!!!. AOK You’ll never get far in this **poker world** (>>that we live in<<) w/ that kind of talk. And your damn sure never gonna get a World Series bracelet with that shit........................... sonny boi. Either listen to what I'm saying, or choose to ignore me. Sure you talk tough. But your bankroll is desolate, your strategy is full of confusion, incorrect calculations, and needs a C word, correction. When is comes to real poker profit your game adds up to about 18 pennies a 3 Quarters, 2 nickels and a dime. Just barely enough for a Spicy McChicken Sandwich. Maybe that !!!bullshit!!! works for Sklansky, Smartmouth, and whoeverthaheck. But, it’s a royal waste of time!!! That will leave you going in circles. Forever spinning your poker wheels. There is a signpost up ahead (clones)… your on {The Poker Road to Nowhere}. Sure just like anybody else… I visit the local Barns and Noble. I… go to the poker section… every… now and then. And… I look… And… I see… Sklansker and Smartmouth mouthing off at the mouth. I read… A word… then two… then three, then 4 of their poker manuals to poker weak profits and mathematical confusion, bankroll termination. I read when it is correct strategy to fold… 4Queens!!! … The hotel!!! ………BUUULLLSHIIT!!! “Pretending to be wise, they became fools” I wouldn’t even steal their book (Though I did borrow Ray Zees High Low split. It’s $30 frikin bucks!!). Time to go back to your <<JOB<< slave, and build another bridge or whatever the hell it is you do w/ your mathematical formulas and scientific theories. Now, let me, come clean. I haven’t really read those books thoroughly and I, really should not cast aspersions (that is too many). I am sure there is some good points in those books. And I have read some of their articles and gleaned some information from them. I read Cardplayer Magazine. Roy Cooke, Daniel, Phil H, and a few (a few) other articles. But when I started I started w/ Caro. And it is Caro, always #1. His lessons are the reason why I love the game and why I am, where I am, today, in poker. And now I have a poker future. And I must give him his of props… always (Unless he wants me to stop this groveling, then I stop). But I have taken notice to the fact that players give recognition mostly to other people. Shmansky Calansky and Bill. And that irky me (pisses me off). And for a lack of a better sentence, Mikes advice and insights into the game are the most profound, and the most profitable, the game has ever seen, and will ever see. What does it take to be a real pro? Truly A top tier player? The very poker elect? 1.Wisdom. “How does a man become wise? The first step is to trust and reverence the Lord” Proverbs 1:7 2.Desire 3.A Love for the game. 4.Falure Failure is a key ingredient to success. Some make the mistake by not recognizing this. And let me say to you this>> You must lose your bankroll at least 7 times before you can truly (re)build and be good to your bankroll. Only after these hard lessons and experiences can you rise up like a phoenix. And take the poker world (that we live in) by storm. But that’s only half. You need to be in love w/ the game [because of your mastery] and it must be your dream to be a poker legend. This is important too. It helps to be a very competitive person who likes all kinds of games where your decisions, skills and strategies determine the winner. Risk, Monopoly, Connect Four, Chess, NHL Hitz. Whatever game I’m playing I usually give it everything I have to win. Some people have a gift for strategy and a competitive nature. In poker these will become poker Legends, and will never have to work again. You know that you must master your poker tactics and strategy, and you must be able to absorb important poker concepts and lessons (Mike). This takes special intelligence and only very, very few I believe have this very special poker intelligence. “Many are called, but few are chosen” Matthew something. I don’t know I couldn’t find it. Do you want to talk strategy? Do you want to talk stud? Let’s talk a little strategy and stud and lets review what I was trying to say. What I said was tells and reading the players styles is even more important to stud than it is to Texas Hold’em. Tells are very profitable in both Holdem and stud. But it is my opinion that they are even more of an asset to 7 card stud, a more complex game w/ more complex decisions to make. With more decisions and betting (5 betting rounds) it is easier to make mistakes in stud than hold’em, from my 7 years of experience. You want to know the real reason I wanted to comment on stud? Here is the real truth. The last several online stud experiences I’ve had my head kicked in. No cards whatsoever and everything would go wrong. I was playing too assertively and w/ the fixed bets I should have taken a defensive strategy lying in the grass letting the others mostly dictate the flow of the game from the beginning especially. I tried it last night and it was a good fit. I won 30 bucks in about 30 hands and I lost some important showdowns w/ good hands that didn’t go my way while another player would make an amazing catch or two to beat me in those hands. A couple of the hands I was very very pissed at what transpired (given the deadness of their cards early) and me not helping. But I kept a quiet game and it worked like a charm. Now I also want to say that Paradise does have the notes feature. This is an excellent feature. And I make notes constantly. But one of the things w/ 7 card is it not as easy to make the notes and analyze players starting hands. And come to conclusions about that. You can aromatically come to the conclusion that they play looser than they should. Especially when your playing low limit. I think strategy is different obviously in a game like 1-6 stud $1 ante like I play in Eagle Pass. Most of the players in that game are timid calling stations so I take control of the betting. Twice I have played stud in Eagle and made green color changes (it has been more than a year since my last visit) One of first times I played stud in a casino card room (Kickapoo Lucky Eagle) I made $800 and another a few years later about that. I had a pyramid so big that time you would have thought I was an . Of course I use several designs when building my buildings, Castles, Sloppy fortresses, Flower skyscrapers. They all work well. Now that I have elaborated what I was saying I hope you can appreciate it better. Thank you for your time. God Bless. Goodbii. :-J Flush, JJ Kerr Oh here John 1:1-13 | ||
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| Re: I am back, Roy Cooke, 20. Oct 2002 11:25 | ||
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| Hi Mick Hope you feel refreshed and ready to go mentally....Best of Luck :-)! Roy Cooke on 17. Oct 2002 16:45 mickblueeyes wrote: > Well I am back after a month or so hiatus from posting and playing. I had > stopped playing poker altogether from Roy and Mike's suggestion. Let's hope the > losing streak is over! I am gonna give stud a chance again over at PP and see > what can happen. I am going to brush up on some of my stud books and go after it > again. I will let ya know! | ||
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