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 5-10 Hand, 3Kings, 17. Oct 2002 08:03 | ||
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| I was playing 5-10 online vs full table. I got A Qo in the small blind. Positions 5 7, and 8 limp in. Position 9 raises. I call, the big blind folds, and everyone else calls. 5 players and $55 in the pot. I called because I knew a raise wouldn't knock anyone out and I was out of position. Position 5 was average and would raise quality hands such as A K or J J so I thought I had a better hand then he did. The next two players called 90% preflop with an occassional raise. The last player had raised the previous time he was in the cutoff with 9 9 and I think he was good enough to know the middle two players were weak by the way he played against them. The flop comes : Ac Kc 5c. I bet. I had been really tight and knew that the next player wouldn't call if he didn't have at least a club and definitely wouldn't raise with out the flush. I also figured the third player would raise as he had bet and raised when scare cards hit the board and he had nothing. Player 4 would reraise only if he had a strong hand and player 5 wouldn't call either unless he had a draw. The players didn't dissappoint me. 2nd player folded. 3rd player raised. This raise knocked out the two remaining players and I called. Since he could have any two cards, I decided to check call him down unless a 4th club hit and then I would fold as any club would beat me. The turn and river were 7h and 10h respectively. He bet the river, I called. He showed 10c 6d and I won a good size pot. Was the flop bet a good bet? Was my thought process good reasoning? Was check-calling him down also a good move? | ||
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| Re: 5-10 Hand, Rich P., 17. Oct 2002 11:32 | ||
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| I like the flop bet. It worked perfectly. I don't like the call down or you commitment to fold if a club came. If you truely thought he was on a flush draw, you should have made him pay. You would be a significant favorite in that situation. As you can see, you opponent would have bluffed a flush, and you would have folded. You can't fold on the river often, especially heads-up against an opponent who is likely to bluff. | ||
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| Re: 5-10 Hand, 3Kings, 18. Oct 2002 06:18 | ||
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| Rich, Since this guy would play any hand, I was pretty sure it was at least a semi-bluff (working on the draw). From his play on previous hands, if i reraised the flop, there is a chance he would have capped it and now I am in for two more small bets and I still don't know if he has the flush. Also, by calling him down, I set him up for later calls (check-raises and such) as I have position on him for every 6 out of 10 hands If the fourth club hits the turn, I'm going to assume he has a club as none of the other players called (assuming any would call if they had a club) so that takes possibly 11 cards out of the mix and makes it more likely that he does have a club. | ||
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| Re: 5-10 Hand, Mike Caro, 17. Oct 2002 18:26 | ||
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| Hi, 3Kings -- I'll let others comment on the questions you asked relative to your tactics after the flop. But I urge you to go to www.cardplayer.com and listen to my latest audio. My advice strongly conflicts with your decision to raise from the get-go. Straight Flushes, Mike Caro | ||
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| Re: 5-10 Hand, 3Kings, 18. Oct 2002 06:08 | ||
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| Mike, The raise came from the cutoff and although I thought about a reraise, I was in the small blind and I didn't feel a reraise would knock anyone out. If you are saying I SHOULD have reraised, then I need to think about my small blind play a little (lot) more. | ||
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| Re: 5-10 Hand, Mark, 18. Oct 2002 05:54 | ||
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| I like the way you played that hand. If your ability to read your opponents is as good as it sounds, your flop bet was going to let you know exactly where you stand. You ended up heads-up with a habitual bluffer. In one of Mike's videos he says that just calling habitual bluffers is more profitable than betting/raising them because they'll hang around and continue to bluff if you just call. But in this case where you were expecting him to bluff-raise, I like your bet because it 1. sets up HIS bluff, which you expected and 2. narrows the field against a scarry board. Then just checking and calling to the river got an extra bet out of him. mark | ||
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