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 triple draw, snakehead, 8. Oct 2002 19:34 | ||
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| I need help with strategy for this game. it is different than draw games with just one draw. with three draws, I think it is probably correct to draw two cards to a 7, and maybe to an 8 if you are in late position and not much raising. it gets tricky, though, when you consider the impact of how many players are in a hand, and how their discards affect your chances of making your draw. also, at what point would you draw three cards? anyone have any good ideas? | ||
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| Re: triple draw, Mike Caro, 9. Oct 2002 07:34 | ||
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| on 8. Oct 2002 19:34 snakehead wrote: > I need help with strategy for this game. it is different than draw games with > just one draw. with three draws, I think it is probably correct to draw two > cards to a 7, and maybe to an 8 if you are in late position and not much > raising. it gets tricky, though, when you consider the impact of how many > players are in a hand, and how their discards affect your chances of making your > draw. also, at what point would you draw three cards? > > anyone have any good ideas? Hi, Snakehead -- I'm trying to schedule time for a detailed analysis of this game, but in general, the trick is to draw DOWN -- often way down. Having three shots to make a fairly strong hand, especially -- as you point out -- if there are many opponents, is not good enough. You often need to draw down one more card and go after the monster. This advice changes on each draw, though. Often, you should be more willing to "go for broke" on the first draw, but as the draws (and betting rounds) progress, you gain more information and must adapt. I will share the results of my double- and triple-draw studies here on this forum, but I'm not sure when this will happen. Straight Flushes, Mike Caro | ||
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| Re: triple draw, Daniel Negreanu, 11. Oct 2002 03:00 | ||
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| I agree with Mike. In our message, you didn't specify whether or not you were talking about A-5 or 2-7 draw? Since you considered keepinng 7's and 8's. I'll assume you meant A-5. When Mike said 'draw down', he was basically saying that you should be drawing to the card you don't need. Ok, that doesn't make sense... let me explain further: If you start a hand with 4-5-6 for example, you are looking to catch what I like to call 'gin cards' (A-2-3). If there is any action in the hand, it's likely that a few of your 'gin cards' are already in your opponents hand... I'm not exactly sure how technical of a response you were looking for, but I can give you a basic rule (for A-5). Any one of these hands are AT LEAST playable for a raise, and in many situations, you should actually re-raise: A-2-3 A-2-4 A-3-4 A-2-5 A-3-5 There are other hands, that if no one has raised, and you have position, you should also raise with, like: A-2-6 A-3-6 A-4-5 2-3-4 2-3-5 . These are 'good' hands', but not 'super good'. Other than these hands, any one card 6 draw or better is virtually an automatic re-raise. Although Poker Probe doesn't have triple draw simualtions, you can still learn a lot from it by using it going into the LAST draw. Daniel Negreanu kidpoker@hotmail.com www.fullcontactpoker.com | ||
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| Re: triple draw, Daniel Negreanu, 11. Oct 2002 03:10 | ||
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| I missed the last part of your question, "When should you drawm three cards". Again I'm assuming A-5. In the BB, against one opponent, it's ok, and usually correct to defend your blind with any two card draw that look like this: A-2 A-3 A-4 A-5 2-3 2-4 3-4 Not exclusively of course. It would depend on where the raise came from, and from who. I would still stay away from hands like 2-5, 3-5, 4-5 though, as they can become complicated draws later. One other consideration ,which is EXTREMELY important, is whether or not you have dead cards (similar to stud). EXAMPLE: Your lone opponent raises next to the button, and you have A-A-A-2-K. Sure it's a three card draw, but you'd be nuts to fold it! It's very likely that your opponent needs that A, and if he doesn't already have it, he has just one to catch. Hands like these are good 'snow' hands, but that's an entirely new, and complicated concept I don't have time for tonight! :-) Daniel Negreanu kidpoker@hotmail.com www.fullcontactpoker.com | ||
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