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 Comparing Poker to a Golf Swing, Hatchet Harry, 1. Oct 2002 13:50 | ||
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| A good few years back now I took up the infuriating game of golf. I remember it like it was yesterday, for the first year I had a wild slice and could'nt play to save my life. Being the competitive type of chap that I am, I soon paid a visit to my local pro. Within 5 lessons my slice had become a mild hook. Even though i've had lessons since, I've still got that hook / draw. Now when I started playin Hold'em, I might as well have been the one in the photo holding the sign saying " Any two cards can win". Funnily enough my first game was a live 4/8 at the Mandalay bay and boy I can still remember how friendly everyone was at the table when they stripped me of my 700 buck gambling fund for my 3 nights there. Managed to get it back on the blackjack table...but that's another story. Anyway's, I comes on this site, gets a few pointers, reads a few books and all of a sudden I'm winning the odd session or two. Whilst I'm still doing ok, I feel like i've massively over corrected on my loose play. I'm so tight I squeek when i walk (or at least it feels like it). 2 points from the above which I would appreciate some feedback on. Point 1 - I see an average of 25% flops (incl blinds) on most day's and of them I take part in about 25% of those. So that's 5 hands in 100 (at a 9 or 10 seated table) that I have chance at the money in. All things being equal and assuming a standard low limit type of opponent - is this way too tight. It is profitable I can assure you, but is it likely that I'm loosing out on extra money. Point 2 - If indeed the above is an overcorrection, do people have similar experience when they were first picking up the game. Just as a sub note, as i've previously noted I do loosen up on the button occasionally when the cards are really bad, but this is the exception rather than the rule. Comments as alway's very much appreciated. Regards Harry | ||
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| Re: Comparing Poker to a Golf Swing, Roy Cooke, 2. Oct 2002 01:16 | ||
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| Hi Harry I love the golf story! I try to hit the ball a little myself. The answers to your questions are underneath the questions!!! on 1. Oct 2002 13:50 Hatchet Harry wrote: > A good few years back now I took up the infuriating game of golf. I remember it > like it was yesterday, for the first year I had a wild slice and could'nt play > to save my life. Being the competitive type of chap that I am, I soon paid a > visit to my local pro. Within 5 lessons my slice had become a mild hook. Even > though i've had lessons since, I've still got that hook / draw. > Now when I started playin Hold'em, I might as well have been the one in the > photo holding the sign saying " Any two cards can win". Funnily enough my first > game was a live 4/8 at the Mandalay bay and boy I can still remember how > friendly everyone was at the table when they stripped me of my 700 buck gambling > fund for my 3 nights there. Managed to get it back on the blackjack table...but > that's another story. > Anyway's, I comes on this site, gets a few pointers, reads a few books and all > of a sudden I'm winning the odd session or two. Whilst I'm still doing ok, I > feel like i've massively over corrected on my loose play. I'm so tight I squeek > when i walk (or at least it feels like it). > 2 points from the above which I would appreciate some feedback on. > > Point 1 - I see an average of 25% flops (incl blinds) on most day's and of them > I take part in about 25% of those. So that's 5 hands in 100 (at a 9 or 10 seated > table) that I have chance at the money in. All things being equal and assuming a > standard low limit type of opponent - is this way too tight. It is profitable I > can assure you, but is it likely that I'm loosing out on extra money. I think you are trying to hard to attach statistics to your poker game. If you are winning playing 25% of your hands you probably are playing reasonably correct. What percentage you do play should be based on the quality and texture of your opponets and your ability to outplay them.There is NO set number you should play! > > Point 2 - If indeed the above is an overcorrection, do people have similar > experience when they were first picking up the game. Fine tuning my game is something I still do after having played 60,000 hours of poker. If I quit thinking I am dead meat at the level I play. Keep adjusting and changing based on your game, knowledge level and opponents. > > Just as a sub note, as i've previously noted I do loosen up on the button > occasionally when the cards are really bad, but this is the exception rather > than the rule. You should play looser in late position since your decisions will be based on more (and hopefully beter) information than your opponents.That said, that is NOT a green light to fire the game up! > > Comments as alway's very much appreciated. > > Regards > Harry > > | ||
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| Re: Comparing Poker to a Golf Swing, Eric Bush, 3. Oct 2002 20:15 | ||
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| Number 1. Concentrate on improving your set up and alignment to improve your golf game. We can't all swing the club like Nicklaus, but there's no reason we can't set up to the ball as well as he does. Number 2. I personally don't think 25% is too small a percentage for HE seeing the flop. I also think it's better to error on the side of tightness rather than looseness. Eric B. on 1. Oct 2002 13:50 Hatchet Harry wrote: > A good few years back now I took up the infuriating game of golf. I remember it > like it was yesterday, for the first year I had a wild slice and could'nt play > to save my life. Being the competitive type of chap that I am, I soon paid a > visit to my local pro. Within 5 lessons my slice had become a mild hook. Even > though i've had lessons since, I've still got that hook / draw. > Now when I started playin Hold'em, I might as well have been the one in the > photo holding the sign saying " Any two cards can win". Funnily enough my first > game was a live 4/8 at the Mandalay bay and boy I can still remember how > friendly everyone was at the table when they stripped me of my 700 buck gambling > fund for my 3 nights there. Managed to get it back on the blackjack table...but > that's another story. > Anyway's, I comes on this site, gets a few pointers, reads a few books and all > of a sudden I'm winning the odd session or two. Whilst I'm still doing ok, I > feel like i've massively over corrected on my loose play. I'm so tight I squeek > when i walk (or at least it feels like it). > 2 points from the above which I would appreciate some feedback on. > > Point 1 - I see an average of 25% flops (incl blinds) on most day's and of them > I take part in about 25% of those. So that's 5 hands in 100 (at a 9 or 10 seated > table) that I have chance at the money in. All things being equal and assuming a > standard low limit type of opponent - is this way too tight. It is profitable I > can assure you, but is it likely that I'm loosing out on extra money. > > Point 2 - If indeed the above is an overcorrection, do people have similar > experience when they were first picking up the game. > > Just as a sub note, as i've previously noted I do loosen up on the button > occasionally when the cards are really bad, but this is the exception rather > than the rule. > > Comments as alway's very much appreciated. > > Regards > Harry > > | ||
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