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 Nice Site Roy, Mike, Jim, HOSH, 30. Sep 2002 19:16 | ||
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| Just wanted to tell you the site looks great. Now maybe you can help me. Many times I have been told that Ted Forrest plays almost 50 percent of the hands the he plays. Lets assume that it is not 50 percent but 35 percent. He is able to beat the best player in the world. Now Mason says he is a freak of nature and stastics. Using poker probe and any other program that I can find hands before the flop have hardly any value if you are a great decision maker after the flop for example AA verses QQ only gives up 80 percent of equity before the flop that is before the flop thus is equivalent to 24 dollars in a 15-30 game. But this is a worse case senario. Could it be that the value of decsions have a higher value then eveyone thinks because you either earn 30 or 60 dollars after the flop. That before the flop a lot of hands can be played if you make hardly any mistakes after the flop. I see top 30-60 players do this all the time. Players that should be broke I hear make 100 an hour for years on end. Since, they have no other income. I know that this must be true otherwise they could not withstand the fluctuation of losing. Players who I think make good money make pittens by playing the standard tight way. There is a player who I know Roy thinks plays bad from a foriegn country but he is a big winner always has been. People shake their heads but he still keeps on winning just like Ted Forrest. Maybe all of us experts are missing something that decisions after the flop can make up for loses before the flop making a big deceptive earner. | ||
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| Re: Nice Site Roy, Mike, Jim, Roy Cooke, 30. Sep 2002 20:08 | ||
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| Hi Hosh Thanks for the kind words :-) I am a firm believer that the conventional wisdom of hand selection is overrated and many authors do not value reading hands (and minds) and decision making abilities in poker enough. If you make much better decisions than your opponets you can take the worst of it starting out! That is because the value of your better decisions makes up for the initial value loss cost of playing an inferior hand. In short I agree with you! Roy Cooke on 30. Sep 2002 19:16 HOSH wrote: > Just wanted to tell you the site looks great. Now maybe you can help me. Many > times I have been told that Ted Forrest plays almost 50 percent of the hands the > he plays. Lets assume that it is not 50 percent but 35 percent. He is able to > beat the best player in the world. Now Mason says he is a freak of nature and > stastics. Using poker probe and any other program that I can find hands before > the flop have hardly any value if you are a great decision maker after the flop > for example AA verses QQ only gives up 80 percent of equity before the flop that > is before the flop thus is equivalent to 24 dollars in a 15-30 game. But this is > a worse case senario. Could it be that the value of decsions have a higher value > then eveyone thinks because you either earn 30 or 60 dollars after the flop. > That before the flop a lot of hands can be played if you make hardly any > mistakes after the flop. I see top 30-60 players do this all the time. Players > that should be broke I hear make 100 an hour for years on end. Since, they have > no other income. I know that this must be true otherwise they could not > withstand the fluctuation of losing. Players who I think make good money make > pittens by playing the standard tight way. There is a player who I know Roy > thinks plays bad from a foriegn country but he is a big winner always has been. > People shake their heads but he still keeps on winning just like Ted Forrest. > Maybe all of us experts are missing something that decisions after the flop can > make up for loses before the flop making a big deceptive earner. | ||
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| Re: Nice Site Roy, Mike, Jim, Barry Shulman, 1. Oct 2002 00:46 | ||
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| Great site. I will be here regularly. Regarding starting marginal hands, tricky play is just not necessary in most games until playing at least $50 - $100. Barry Shulman | ||
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| Thanks Roy and Barry, HOSH, 1. Oct 2002 03:05 | ||
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| I thought I had been missing something. This clarifies my situation and logic a lot. But I still think I make to many mistakes after the flop so I can never do what the great players do. Play well and have fun. Hosh | ||
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