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 $8-$16, ScroogeMcd, 29. Sep 2002 18:17 | ||
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| I was playing in an extremely loose 8-16 game at my local casino when this hand came up. The two players under the gun called, I limped in third position with pocket fours anticipating a multi way pot (commonplace for this game). Uncharacteristically the entire field folded around to the small blind who made up and the big blind tapped. The flop came down J32 rainbow. The field checked to me and I bet. The small blind called and the rest of the field folded. The turn card came the seven of clubs creating a two flush. The small blind suprisingly led the turn. While i had only played with the small blind for a short period he seemed ABC i felt he was unlikely to have checked a jack on the flop and would be unlikely to play any of the other combinations out of the small blind that would give him two pair. What would other forum participants do on the turn card raise, call or fold and why? | ||
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| Re: $8-$16, Manley, 29. Sep 2002 20:46 | ||
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| Perhaps raise. -If he reraises, get out because chances are he is actually betting/raising for profit. -If he calls your raise, you could end up getting a showdown at no further cost if he checks to you, the raiser, on the river. -Also if he calls your raise on the turn, you could catch that third four on the river anyway and you could then bet for profit. -Or from your raise on the turn, he might come to think that he was being too loose (if he bet on the turn without decent cards) and end up folding right after your raise to cut his losses. But that's just my stab at it. I welcome any corrections or suggestions that anyone has for my logic. I'm still learning this game, too. Best Regards, Manley on 29. Sep 2002 18:17 ScroogeMcd wrote: > I was playing in an extremely loose 8-16 game at my local casino when this hand > came up. The two players under the gun called, I limped in third position with > pocket fours anticipating a multi way pot (commonplace for this game). > Uncharacteristically the entire field folded around to the small blind who made > up and the big blind tapped. The flop came down J32 rainbow. The field checked > to me and I bet. The small blind called and the rest of the field folded. The > turn card came the seven of clubs creating a two flush. The small blind > suprisingly led the turn. While i had only played with the small blind for a > short period he seemed ABC i felt he was unlikely to have checked a jack on the > flop and would be unlikely to play any of the other combinations out of the > small blind that would give him two pair. What would other forum participants > do on the turn card raise, call or fold and why? | ||
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| Re: $8-$16, Mark, 30. Sep 2002 07:41 | ||
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| I would fold. If he is an ABC (straight forward) player what is he betting with. You missed the flop/turn and are 22:1 against improving. I don't think your hand has an expected value, especially when the odds of another overcard (to your pair) are very good. That's my thought, but I usually don't play 4's. Mark | ||
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| Re: $8-$16, Hatchet Harry, 30. Sep 2002 11:06 | ||
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| I'm folding here. With the unkonwn SB potentially holding two pair 3-7s, pair of 7's, slow played J's, a flush draw and with pot odds of around 4-1 I see little reason to play it to the river. However, if I had to play then it would definately be a raise over a call, to push off any drawing hand or get value against it. Regards Harry | ||
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| Re: $8-$16, Roy Cooke, 30. Sep 2002 20:34 | ||
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| I would call if I thought the player was likely to be bluffing in that spot. that way I gain equity if he bets again and I may pick off a four if I am beat (If he has a big hand and I raise and get reraised I lose the chance to hit a four)! If he was the sort that would test bet in that spot I would raise. These types of questions are answered by what you read your opponets to be capable of. It's a tough decision...one that needs to be decided by feel! Roy Cooke 29. Sep 2002 18:17 ScroogeMcd wrote: > I was playing in an extremely loose 8-16 game at my local casino when this hand > came up. The two players under the gun called, I limped in third position with > pocket fours anticipating a multi way pot (commonplace for this game). > Uncharacteristically the entire field folded around to the small blind who made > up and the big blind tapped. The flop came down J32 rainbow. The field checked > to me and I bet. The small blind called and the rest of the field folded. The > turn card came the seven of clubs creating a two flush. The small blind > suprisingly led the turn. While i had only played with the small blind for a > short period he seemed ABC i felt he was unlikely to have checked a jack on the > flop and would be unlikely to play any of the other combinations out of the > small blind that would give him two pair. What would other forum participants > do on the turn card raise, call or fold and why? | ||
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