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 Poker Math, Manley, 28. Sep 2002 21:21 | ||
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| To Everyone, I'm getting better and better at reading people's mannerisms at the table (and profiting off of that), but I really feel that I am lacking in poker mathematics. I'm just not as familiar with card probabilities and etc. as I'd like to be. So my question is: What is out there that really concentrates on these probabilities and perhaps other related concepts as well? Any feedback will be much appreciated! Best Regards, Manley | ||
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| Re: Poker Math, timmer, 29. Sep 2002 10:07 | ||
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| a intermediate book on statistical analisys should cover about any questions you might have on probability 28. Sep 2002 21:21 Manley wrote: > To Everyone, > > I'm getting better and better at reading people's mannerisms at the table (and > profiting off of that), but I really feel that I am lacking in poker > mathematics. I'm just not as familiar with card probabilities and etc. as I'd > like to be. So my question is: > > What is out there that really concentrates on these probabilities and perhaps > other related concepts as well? > > Any feedback will be much appreciated! > > Best Regards, > Manley | ||
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| Re: Poker Math, Hatchet Harry, 29. Sep 2002 12:33 | ||
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| Hi Manley, I think this question can be answered in steps. Firstly you need to be comftable with working pot odds and you have mentioned that you are happy with this. Secondly you need to be able to calculate the odds of drawing what you percieve to be winning possibilities from the deck - This second point can be learnt in a few different way's from alot of hold-em books. Although the method I favour is to take the amount of winning cards in the deck or "Outs" and devide these against the cards remaining in the deck after deducting the cards you can see and the cards that would make your outs. For example. You hold AK and the flop shows 2,7,T. You beleive that making either pair will win the hand so you have effectively 6 cards that you have not seen remaining to draw against. Being there are 47 unseen cards and 6 of these are your outs you end up with a probability of 6:41 of drawing the winning hand. This can be rounded down so effectively you have a 1to 6 chance. If you believe the pot is offering higher odds or will offer higher odds by the end of the hand then you can bet. There may be better systems than the one i've described but I find it the easiest one to work with at the table, and you soon will know instictively the odds for each number of outs at any given stage of the hand. The last factor is being able to calculate the number of outs you have to win the hand. Obviously this can only be done by putting your opponents on a range of hands and calculating the number of cards needed to improve your own hand to win. In my opinion it is this last factor is the one that asseses your overall strength as a player. I would say that i'm putting people on the wrong range of hands probably 60% of the time, but the fact that I bother making the effort, makes me a better player than the majority of players in the low limit stakes that I play. I think study can help you with this, but does not come close to experience. My only advice would be, that no matter how innaccurate you reads, never give in on working on them as they are the difference between bad and good players. Hope this helps, it helped me alot. Regards Harry | ||
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| Re: Poker Math, Michael S Mantel, 2. Oct 2002 09:50 | ||
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| Read Skalansky, all the math has been done already. also buy a program to run sumulations. You do not have to re invent the wheel. As a side light David Alspach has a math/poker site. He is a math professorin canada. GL mm | ||
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| Re: Poker Math, pokerstore.net, 16. Oct 2002 03:49 | ||
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| Correction: His name is Brian Alspach. i'll be playing with him later this month :) Unless there are 2 Alspach poker playing professors in Canada :) | ||
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| Re: Poker Math, hank porcaro, 24. Oct 2002 11:17 | ||
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| I bought a recent copy of "Statistics" by Cliff's Notes ( They got me this far). "Odd(s) Book is good for more insight, but recent post by HOSH in "learning odds" thread makes it easy. | ||
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