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 Mike Caro- Planet Poker monitoring for cheats?, Easy E, 11. Sep 2002 07:48 | ||
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| Mike, Gary Carson believes that you may have said that Planet Poker may be doing a lot of monitoring for potential cheating. Here is the post from RGP: suckoutartist@yahoo.com (letmewin) wrote in message news:<68880dde.0209080621.66360b6b@posting.google.com>;... > We would not play the same table for more than 1 hour. We never enter > the game at the same time. No leaving the same time. No login the same > time. For any hour of teamplay both of us would play at least 2 hours > single. Some days we wouldn't play together at all and 1 of us > wouldn't even login. Our betting-patterns wouldn't change to much. We > would play best-hand most of the time but also would try to take > advantage of every opp. that might come up. We would not fold a hand > like KK just because the other player hold AA. We would try to not > being to obvious as we thought we might get caught by security. We > would not play any PP below TT if the other player held one of it. > Depending on the situation one of us would experience a disconnection > preflop rather than folding a hand like AQ when the partner held AK or > AQs. But not always. I don't go to much in detail but i now give you > some examples of what we did. > Someone more knowledgeable enlighten me- why would ANYONE think that poker sites are monitoring hands to the level of detail that would reveal these kinds of collusion? > I held 99 in early . My partner held a 9. I folded. I held AK and my > partner AKs. I was very suddenly disconnected before i could act > preflop. I rivered a flush and very comfortable 3bet a raise because i > knew my partner had folded the A of that suit. If we sit close > together we would attack the blinds more aggressive. This, I would think, might have a greater chance of being flagged.... or not? Same thing with the disconnecting tricks...? Once ( and we > realy thought security-software would catch us, but it didn't) we both> held 88 in late position with 4 limpers already. Normaly a clear > raise. Not necessarily true... and REALLY not possible to be flagged, unless the sites are monitoring out the wazoo (impossible?) Though I despise the cheating (you obviously didn't return the money), thanks for posting how easy it is to collude online... Easy E | ||
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| Re: Mike Caro- Planet Poker monitoring for cheats?, Mike Caro, 11. Sep 2002 19:15 | ||
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| on 11. Sep 2002 07:48 Easy E wrote: > Mike, > Gary Carson believes that you may have said that Planet Poker may be doing a > lot of monitoring for potential cheating. Hi, Easy E -- Currently, I don't do collusion monitoring at Planet Poker on a regular basis. Roy Cooke does this with others assisting him. I have consulted about automated ways to detect collusion, true, but it is not possible to catch all instances online or in real-world casinos. As I have written many times, I believe collusion at poker is not just unsportsmanlike and wrong, it's a very serious crime. When we sit down in a poker game, we pledge to each other that we will play in our own selfish best interests. Obviously, people can beat poker by violating this tacit agreement, but they're low-life scum if they do that. When you mutually pledge your word to others, and they to you, and you alone violate that word, leaving others to suffer because they are doing as they promised, there are few crimes more despicable, in my opinion. I have said that poker cheats should be drawn and quartered, and I really mean it. Fortunately, it's easier to catch colluders online than in real-world play. That's because we keep a record from the beginning of time of all the cards that are played (and discarded). Real world surveillance can only fantasize about being able to go back in history and look at the cards of potential colluders they're suspicious of, but online surveillance can really do just that. Still, you should always be vigalant and not everything will be caught. Most will eventually, though. Straight Flushes, Mike Caro | ||
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| Re: Mike Caro- Planet Poker monitoring for cheats?, Easy E, 12. Sep 2002 07:12 | ||
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| .. the problem being, of course, that in order to USE those volumes of data (what, they have a CRAY down there?) someone has to recognize what's going on... and with several hundreds (?) of tables running, 60 hands per hour.... sounds really tough. This, among other things, is why i haven't jumped into the online game yet. | ||
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| Re: Mike Caro- Planet Poker monitoring for cheats?, timmer, 13. Sep 2002 17:24 | ||
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| on 11. Sep 2002 19:15 Mike Caro wrote: > on 11. Sep 2002 07:48 Easy E wrote: > > Mike, > > Gary Carson believes that you may have said that Planet Poker may be doing a > > lot of monitoring for potential cheating. > > Hi, Easy E -- > . I have said that poker cheats should > be drawn and quartered, and I really mean it. > Mike Boiled and eaten sounds much more base and primordialy threatening. However, I feel brutally pummeled with automobile jacks and fed peicemeal to coyoties or jackels to be a particularly fitting demise for poker cheats. Of course being striped naked, tied and left with wounded jackrabbits tethered to their genitalia in mountain lion territory may be suitable in some extreme cases. Of course to each his own. -t > > Straight Flushes, > Mike Caro | ||
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