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Two 5-10 hands, Brian Tipton, 5. Sep 2002 21:53
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Here are two hands that I played recently in a live 5-10 game. I'll list them and give my reasons for the way I played it and you can fire away.

First hand at the table, 4th seat against a live straddle. I have 4c-7c. I am always looking for a deceptive play early as to not become predictable later so I three bet. To my surprise, two late position players and the big blind call. The straddle caps it, everyone calls.The flop comes 4d-5h-4h. It is checked to me, I bet. The two players behind me call, the big blind raises and everyone calls. I only call because I don't like my kicker if the other player was raising with the case 4 but with the odds at this point, I am calling to the river no matter what. The turn is the Jh putting a possible flush on the board. It is checked around and the river comes 7s giving me a full house. It is checked to me, I bet. Everyone folds to the straddler who raises. I call. He has 2-2 and I win a monster pot.

(Side note: Feeling really good at this point, I almost call with my next hand of 10h-4h, but decide against it. Three hearts come on the board and the winner had 9h-6h. The hand after that I have 4-5o in the big blind, there is a raise and I fold. The river would have given me a third 5 and the pot.)

I have A-9o in the cutoff. If suited, I will ususally raise in this position to get the button and the blinds out. The button tipped his hand that he was folding and with 3 callers already I decided to just call, The SB folds and the BB calls. The flop comes Qc-9s-5h. It is checked around to me and I debate whether to check or call with my second pair. I decide to check as my hesitation and indecision have made me vulnerable to anyone that was capable of reading me (although, I didn't think the players were that bright). The turn brings 3d, therefore, there is no flush draw. a middle position player bets and I call as do two others. I almost raised here thinking that I had the best hand but not being good at reading people, I just called. The river brings the 3c. The middle player bets and I call as does one other player. The middle position player turns up Kh-3h and takes the pot with three 3's. After this hand, they brought more chips to the table so I had time to think. The middle position player was loose but I don't think he would even have called Kh-3h if I had bet the flop. I do think though that he would have called my raise on the turn as I didn't bet the flop although I can't be for sure.

As I know I am not a great player (or even good), I won't take any offense to what anyone says. I am trying to learn and if I didn't make any mistakes or ask for opinions, then how can I improve?
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Re: Two 5-10 hands, Roy Cooke, 6. Sep 2002 12:40
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Hello Brian

Your hand selection is WAY too loose. 74 suited is NOT a starting hand even as a deception play. It was unlikely that the raiser on the flop held a 4....so I would have reraised. I also would have rehit the river.

Don't even think about playing T-4 suited!


I would not have played A9 off in the second hand. I think it is too loose of a play. If I would have played it I would have bet the flop....since it was checked to me it is unlikely that anyone held top pair and my second pair has the best kicker. That would have avoided giving a free card to any opponets I had beat.

Roy Cooke

on 5. Sep 2002 21:53 Brian Tipton wrote:
> Here are two hands that I played recently in a live 5-10 game. I'll list them
> and give my reasons for the way I played it and you can fire away.
>
> First hand at the table, 4th seat against a live straddle. I have 4c-7c. I am
> always looking for a deceptive play early as to not become predictable later so
> I three bet. To my surprise, two late position players and the big blind call.
> The straddle caps it, everyone calls.The flop comes 4d-5h-4h. It is checked to
> me, I bet. The two players behind me call, the big blind raises and everyone
> calls. I only call because I don't like my kicker if the other player was
> raising with the case 4 but with the odds at this point, I am calling to the
> river no matter what. The turn is the Jh putting a possible flush on the board.
> It is checked around and the river comes 7s giving me a full house. It is
> checked to me, I bet. Everyone folds to the straddler who raises. I call. He
> has 2-2 and I win a monster pot.
>
> (Side note: Feeling really good at this point, I almost call with my next hand
> of 10h-4h, but decide against it. Three hearts come on the board and the winner
> had 9h-6h. The hand after that I have 4-5o in the big blind, there is a raise
> and I fold. The river would have given me a third 5 and the pot.)
>
> I have A-9o in the cutoff. If suited, I will ususally raise in this position
> to get the button and the blinds out. The button tipped his hand that he was
> folding and with 3 callers already I decided to just call, The SB folds and the
> BB calls. The flop comes Qc-9s-5h. It is checked around to me and I debate
> whether to check or call with my second pair. I decide to check as my
> hesitation and indecision have made me vulnerable to anyone that was capable of
> reading me (although, I didn't think the players were that bright). The turn
> brings 3d, therefore, there is no flush draw. a middle position player bets and
> I call as do two others. I almost raised here thinking that I had the best hand
> but not being good at reading people, I just called. The river brings the 3c.
> The middle player bets and I call as does one other player. The middle position
> player turns up Kh-3h and takes the pot with three 3's. After this hand, they
> brought more chips to the table so I had time to think. The middle position
> player was loose but I don't think he would even have called Kh-3h if I had bet
> the flop. I do think though that he would have called my raise on the turn as I
> didn't bet the flop although I can't be for sure.
>
> As I know I am not a great player (or even good), I won't take any offense to
> what anyone says. I am trying to learn and if I didn't make any mistakes or ask
> for opinions, then how can I improve?
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Re: Two 5-10 hands, Brian, 6. Sep 2002 21:27
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Thanks for the input Roy. My biggest problem playing poker is that I usually have a time limit (this time about one hour) and want to play. The casino is also 45 minutes each way so it is not just something I can do when I want to. It is hard to sit and wait for a hand when you are at most going to see about 30 hands total. Most of my winning sessions occur when I am playing at least 4 hours and have time to sit, watch and wait. Anything less than 2 hours and I play way too much, especially if I am losing.

Another problem I have is discipline. 80% of the time, I know what to do it is just a question of doing it. 20 % of the time, I have to think about it and it takes too long for me to decide. I know there is no better way to get practice then by actually playing; but, if anyone has any hints, I would appreciate it.

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Re: Two 5-10 hands, Roy Cooke, 7. Sep 2002 13:23
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As you gain experiance your poker thoughts will rise to a higher plain and yout hought process will get quicker....as far as disapline...that must come from within yourself.......commit to disapline.


Roy Cooke

on 6. Sep 2002 21:27 Brian wrote:
> Thanks for the input Roy. My biggest problem playing poker is that I usually have a time
> limit (this time about one hour) and want to play. The casino is also 45 minutes each way
> so it is not just something I can do when I want to. It is hard to sit and wait for a
> hand when you are at most going to see about 30 hands total. Most of my winning sessions
> occur when I am playing at least 4 hours and have time to sit, watch and wait. Anything
> less than 2 hours and I play way too much, especially if I am losing.
>
> Another problem I have is discipline. 80% of the time, I know what to do it is just a
> question of doing it. 20 % of the time, I have to think about it and it takes too long
> for me to decide. I know there is no better way to get practice then by actually playing;
> but, if anyone has any hints, I would appreciate it.
>
>
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