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 Beginners Litreture, Hatchet Harry, 26. Aug 2002 08:40 | ||
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| Thanks to some advice from an earlier post, i've hopefully just taken my first step to improving my game by buying some books. (LOL just gotta read em now which is the hard part) After a lot of soul searching I went for the following. Winners Guide to Texas Hold'em Poker - Ken Warren Poker Tournement Strategies - Sylvester Suzuki Hold'em Excellence (2nd Edition) - Lou Krieger Winning Low-Limit Hold'em - Lee Jones. The main reason for my post was that although people seem to recomend Slansky, Malmouth, caro as good reading for a basic foundation of the game, upon looking further into such books as Slansky's theory of poker, Caro's Fundemental Secrets of Winning Poker & Malmouths Fundementals of Poker - it seems that these were more technical in their approach which scared me away. I would be interested in hearing from any learners or experts alike to see if they concur that these are not the ideal first time out books and more for further reading? Also is Slansky's Holdem really outdated or is this worth a look as well? While i'm here, i'd just like to say thx to Roy for his early replies. Whilst I'm not technically able to involve myself in most of the debates / posts. I really apreciate a place where i can get feedback and hopefully improve my game. Living in the UK, unless you play in casino's every week, then it's more than likely that you'll never come across an avid poker player. So sites like this are extremely helpful. Best regards HH | ||
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| Re: Beginners Litreture, Spencer, 26. Aug 2002 11:06 | ||
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| HH I am in a similar state as you. I am still learning and reading as much as I can. I try to play on a regular basis but am sticking to low limits and still have alot to learn. However I did find Mike's Book Fundametals Secrets of Winning Poker very Helpful. It was not too technical in my opinion as a fellow beginner. I can't speak about the others since I have not read them yet. I would suggest adding it to your list. Just my two cents. Hope it helps and good luck at the tables. | ||
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| Re: Beginners Litreture, Hatchet Harry, 26. Aug 2002 12:03 | ||
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| Cheers bud - i'll certainly do that - got a 2 week holiday away from the computer - so i'll be crammin up alongside the pool with me pint of lager and me books. luck 2 u 2 | ||
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| Re: Beginners Litreture, jim grass, 26. Aug 2002 11:24 | ||
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| on 26. Aug 2002 08:40 Hatchet Harry wrote: > Thanks to some advice from an earlier post, i've hopefully just taken my first > step to improving my game by buying some books. (LOL just gotta read em now > which is the hard part) > > After a lot of soul searching I went for the following. > > Winners Guide to Texas Hold'em Poker - Ken Warren > Poker Tournement Strategies - Sylvester Suzuki The above two books are not regarded as decent books I have both and the tourney book is just so darn vague and the warren book is for spread limit holdem which is a whole different breed of animal.. I feel a decent starting tourney book would be tom mcevoys if you want the basics on limit and some other games.the no limit section is really not inspiring at all. > Hold'em Excellence (2nd Edition) - Lou Krieger > Winning Low-Limit Hold'em - Lee Jones. yes these two books are well recieved... > > The main reason for my post was that although people seem to recomend Slansky, > Malmouth, caro as good reading for a basic foundation of the game, upon looking.. > further into such books as Slansky's theory of poker, Caro's Fundemental Secrets > of Winning Poker & Malmouths Fundementals of Poker - it seems that these were > more technical in their approach which scared me away. Very good insite i agree that theory of poker is mostly beneficial to those who have had the beginner readings and experience to comprehend the in depth interpretation of each topic.. Caro to me is the common mans teacher ..He makes everything understandable..I cut my teeth on his works > I would be interested in hearing from any learners or experts alike to see if > they concur that these are not the ideal first time out books and more for > further reading? Also is Slansky's Holdem really outdated or is this worth a > look as well? yes mason and slkansky are for advanced players who have the basics well UNDERSTOOD... If your very curious how a true player thinks during play get one of Roys books..I have his first and I`m much more aware of tactical sitautions since i have studied it. > > While i'm here, i'd just like to say thx to Roy for his early replies. Whilst > I'm not technically able to involve myself in most of the debates / posts. I The more you trry to express your thoughts the sooner things fall into place ..trust me it works better then sitting silently.. get involved ... jim > really apreciate a place where i can get feedback and hopefully improve my game. > Living in the UK, unless you play in casino's every week, then it's more than > likely that you'll never come across an avid poker player. So sites like this > are extremely helpful. > > Best regards > HH | ||
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| Re: Beginners Litreture, Hatchet Harry, 26. Aug 2002 12:28 | ||
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| Jim, Thx again - the input i'm getting from this site has already improved my game immensly. I've found a whole new side to the game which I did'nt know existed. IE concentrating on the other players not just the cards you are dealt. It's hard to say exactly how good it feels to know (or mostly know) when a players on PA's or K's when your holdin Q's. And my web notes on players are reading like books already. Being that I think i enjoy multi seat holdem tourney's more than side games, I used to spend all my time reading books or websites while I was playin my boring tight game. Now u can't get me away from the screen in game time. And i find myself winning on hands that I would'nt have even considered playin when i've read a player as loose and aggresive. Whilst i'm still not raking it in at the moment, my enjoyment of the game has increased and i'm sure if I continue to study the game, i've got the right apptitude to become reasonable. Saying that, i've only got time to write this because i just blew my stack in a tourney slow playin A's to the river to be outdrawn on top straight - LOL - but I did'nt expect it to be a downhill ride to the finish line.....Lovely line from the bloke that beat me tho. Remember harry PA's are only a pair... I Think i'll write that down. Best Regards HH | ||
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| Re: Beginners Litreture, Herb, 26. Aug 2002 19:16 | ||
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| One of the most helpful books I have read is Carson's "Complete Book of Hold'em Poker". Well worth the price and it will make you think about your game. | ||
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| Re: Beginners Litreture, Mano, 27. Aug 2002 20:51 | ||
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| on 26. Aug 2002 08:40 Hatchet Harry wrote: > Thanks to some advice from an earlier post, i've hopefully just taken my first > step to improving my game by buying some books. (LOL just gotta read em now > which is the hard part) > > After a lot of soul searching I went for the following. > > Winners Guide to Texas Hold'em Poker - Ken Warren > Poker Tournement Strategies - Sylvester Suzuki > Hold'em Excellence (2nd Edition) - Lou Krieger > Winning Low-Limit Hold'em - Lee Jones. > > The main reason for my post was that although people seem to recomend Slansky, > Malmouth, caro as good reading for a basic foundation of the game, upon looking > further into such books as Slansky's theory of poker, Caro's Fundemental Secrets > of Winning Poker & Malmouths Fundementals of Poker - it seems that these were > more technical in their approach which scared me away. > I would be interested in hearing from any learners or experts alike to see if > they concur that these are not the ideal first time out books and more for > further reading? Also is Slansky's Holdem really outdated or is this worth a > look as well? > > While i'm here, i'd just like to say thx to Roy for his early replies. Whilst > I'm not technically able to involve myself in most of the debates / posts. I > really apreciate a place where i can get feedback and hopefully improve my game. > Living in the UK, unless you play in casino's every week, then it's more than > likely that you'll never come across an avid poker player. So sites like this > are extremely helpful. > > Best regards > HH Winning Low-Limit Hold'em is an excellent place to start, but if you ever want to move beyond occasionally playing for fun and truly understand the game, I think Sklansky's books (in particular Hold'em for Advanced Players and the Theory of Poker) are must reads. These are much more technical than Lee Jones book, but if you want to understand WHY you should make plays, and be able to deduce the correct play for yourself, you will eventually need to understand technical concepts like expected value, pot odds, implied odds, reverse implied odds, etc. Good luck. | ||
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