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A lowball puzzle, Mike Caro, 21. Aug 2002 14:24
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In Gardena, California, which was once considered the "Poker Capital of the World," but now boasts just two card casinos (The Normandie Casino, the last remaining of the old Gardena clubs, and Larry Flynt's Hustler Casino, newly constructed where the Eldorado used to be), we used to play ace-to-five lowball.

This was the most popular form of poker, but that's because only five-card draw and lowball were allowed. Anyway, both these five-card forms of poker were played with a 53-card deck (the standard 52-cards, plus a joker). In draw poker, the joker could only be used as an ace or to complete a straight or flush (including, of course, a straight flush). In lowball, the joker was always the lowest rank not already represented in the hand.

If you're not familiar with ace-to-five lowball, keep in mind that straights and flushes do not count against you, and the ace is considered low, not high. Therefore, 5-4-3-2-A (called a wheel) is the best possible hand, and 6-4-3-2-A is the next best (and the best "six").

As lengend goes, one day a guy claimed he had made a wheel and beat four six-high hands. Everyone supposedly pointed out that this wasn't possible, because there weren't enough low cards in the deck.

Question: How many six-high hands could his wheel actually have beaten?

Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro

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Re: A lowball puzzle, Michael Wiesenberg, 21. Aug 2002 14:36
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Oooh, I know, I know, I know! <Hands waving> Call on me, call on me!
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Re: A lowball puzzle, Mike Caro, 21. Aug 2002 15:21
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on 21. Aug 2002 14:36 Michael Wiesenberg wrote:
> Oooh, I know, I know, I know! <Hands waving> Call on me, call on me!

Hi, Michael --

I always figured you for the obnoxious kid in the front row of seats. Who would have ever figured you'd grow up to be a poker authority and create the Official Dictionary of Poker?

I knew you knew. You always know.

Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro
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Re: A lowball puzzle, Roy Cooke, 21. Aug 2002 17:33
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Lowball....You guys must be older than dirt! LOL

Roy Cooke


on 21. Aug 2002 14:24 Mike Caro wrote:
> In Gardena, California, which was once considered the "Poker Capital of the
> World," but now boasts just two card casinos (The Normandie Casino, the last
> remaining of the old Gardena clubs, and Larry Flynt's Hustler Casino, newly
> constructed where the Eldorado used to be), we used to play ace-to-five
> lowball.
>
> This was the most popular form of poker, but that's because only five-card draw
> and lowball were allowed. Anyway, both these five-card forms of poker were
> played with a 53-card deck (the standard 52-cards, plus a joker). In draw poker,
> the joker could only be used as an ace or to complete a straight or flush
> (including, of course, a straight flush). In lowball, the joker was always the
> lowest rank not already represented in the hand.
>
> If you're not familiar with ace-to-five lowball, keep in mind that straights
> and flushes do not count against you, and the ace is considered low, not high.
> Therefore, 5-4-3-2-A (called a wheel) is the best possible hand, and 6-4-3-2-A
> is the next best (and the best "six").
>
> As lengend goes, one day a guy claimed he had made a wheel and beat four
> six-high hands. Everyone supposedly pointed out that this wasn't possible,
> because there weren't enough low cards in the deck.
>
> Question: How many six-high hands could his wheel actually have beaten?
>
> Straight Flushes,
> Mike Caro
>
>
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Re: A lowball puzzle, Andrew Wells, 21. Aug 2002 17:38
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He did beat four six low hands. Unfortunately he wasn't awarded the pot, because someone had slipped an extra deuce of clubs into the deck. The poor dealer was suspended for three days for failing to count down the stub at any time while in the box.
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Re: A lowball puzzle, Harold Pierce, Jr., 22. Aug 2002 00:13
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Yikes Mike! You are starting to exhibit symptoms of David's Disease: posting math puzzles in poker forums.

I solved this the easy way. I took out a deck of blue Bees, my favorites, and quite quickly laid out: 6-5-4-3-A, 6-5-4-2-A, 6-5-3-2-A, 6-4-3-2-A, 5-4-3-2-J. And just for fun I rearranged the cards so that all of the 6 lows
were fluhes! Thus, it is possible the legend is true.

Really like the new site. I'll be checking in everyday. I told Rhonda that you guys should place a banner ad announcing this new site over at Two Plus Two. She said that she didn't Mason and David would go for this. But as the B.C. 6/49 ad always says, "Hey, you nver know!"

-=-MouseEars

PS: I'll be sending you an updated and corrected copy of the math tables for seven card stud 435 later this morning. Roy has a copy of the tables.
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Re: A lowball puzzle, Mano, 22. Aug 2002 15:58
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You can beat 4 Lows:
For simplicity, I will assume the following hands are flushes in clubs, diamonds, hearts and spades respectively:

6 4 3 2 A all clubs
6 5 3 2 A all diamonds
6 5 4 2 A all hearts
6 5 4 3 2 all spades

This leaves 5c 4d 3h As Jk for the wheel to beat them all.

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Re: A lowball puzzle, Harold Pierce, Jr., 23. Aug 2002 14:46
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Your answer is correct, but Old Weird Harold, Jr. beat you out by 15 hrs and 45 min. Thus, no cigar for you!
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