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 Question for Roy : 7 Stud Variation, Harold Pierce, Jr., 14. Aug 2002 16:20 | ||
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| Do you have any knowledge of a simple variation of 7 card stud wherein the 3 hole cards are first dealt followed by 4th street as the door card and opening betting round? Fifth, 6th and 7th streets are then dealt with a betting round after each street. After the end of betting on 7th street, there is a showdown in the usual way. When Planet Poker first came on line, Mike was the first well-known poker player I asked about this variation, and he indicated to me that he had never seen or heard of 7 stud being played in this way. Since that time I found that this variation is played in private house games in several midwestern states, and I played it many decades ago in my hometown of Danville, Ill. I have recently finshed calculating the basic math and stats for 20 different 4 cards starting hands and have compared this variation to trad. 7 card stud. I shall send you via e-mail these math tables later today for your examination anad comments. IMHO, I believe that this variation, which I have tentatively named seven card stud 435, could absolutely revitalize "the old men's game" and would be quite suitable for on-line gaming since it speeds up the game by ca. 20 % and greatly increasing action by ca. 260 % as my calculation have shown. MouseEars | ||
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| Re: Question for Roy : 7 Stud Variation, Roy Cooke, 15. Aug 2002 07:20 | ||
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| on 14. Aug 2002 16:20 Harold Pierce, Jr. wrote: > Do you have any knowledge of a simple variation of 7 card stud wherein the 3 > hole cards are first dealt followed by 4th street as the door card and opening > betting round? Fifth, 6th and 7th streets are then dealt with a betting round > after each street. After the end of betting on 7th street, there is a showdown > in the usual way. > > When Planet Poker first came on line, Mike was the first well-known poker > player I asked about this variation, and he indicated to me that he had never > seen or heard of 7 stud being played in this way. Since that time I found that > this variation is played in private house games in several midwestern states, > and I played it many decades ago in my hometown of Danville, Ill. > > I have recently finshed calculating the basic math and stats for 20 different 4 > cards starting hands and have compared this variation to trad. 7 card stud. I > shall send you via e-mail these math tables later today for your examination > anad comments. > > IMHO, I believe that this variation, which I have tentatively named seven card > stud 435, could absolutely revitalize "the old men's game" and would be quite > suitable for on-line gaming since it speeds up the game by ca. 20 % and greatly > increasing action by ca. 260 % as my calculation have shown. > > MouseEars > > Hi Harold I have never seen or heard of this variation of seven stud. It seems like it would be a harder variation to play. Roy Cooke | ||
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| Re: Question for Roy : 7 Stud Variation, Harold Pierce, Jr., 15. Aug 2002 13:36 | ||
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| Thank you for prompt reply. I sent you the math tables very early this morning via CompuServe e-mail to the "suggestion" address. Did you receive them? Actually this variation is not difficult to play. It will play just like trad. 7 card stud except the frequency of the usual starting hands is greater as is shown by the potential for action parameter. Take out a deck of cards, deal out 8 four card hands face up and play a high-low with no qualifer. You will usually find that there are 3 to 5 hands that can call the bring-in for a "loose -aggressive" play style. The other reason I undertook these calculations is that there is no data for 4 card starting hands except for a few combos which can be found on Brian Alspach 's SFU poker website. ( Incidently, I 'm an organic chemist and work at SFU). Popular dealer's choice home games are Cincinnati 44 and 444, and math tables are useful for these games. When Mike get back from the Ozarks, please show him the tables so he can check them out for math errors. It is taken quite some time to correct all the trivial math errors, typos, etc. If you all find them OK you can them post them in the Poker Info and Odds section with an appropiate acknowledgent to me, so they will be available for everybody. MouseEars | ||
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| Re: Question for Roy : 7 Stud Variation, uncanick, 15. Aug 2002 17:47 | ||
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| Hi-lo?We play this occasionally at my home game. The one who deals it calls it "LaDew"[LaDieu?]. Believe he learned it at Notre Dame. Would be VERY interested in any stragedy or starting hand tables. | ||
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| Re: Question for Roy : 7 Stud Variation, Harold Pierce, Jr., 16. Aug 2002 06:08 | ||
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| Post your e-mail address to 74563.30@compuserve.com, and I'll send you a copy of the tables right away. Could you ask your friend where he learned of this variation and if he knows any other places where it is played? | ||
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| Re: Question for Roy : 7 Stud Variation, Harold Pierce, Jr., 16. Aug 2002 15:42 | ||
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| I forgot to ask : what part of the US do you reside? | ||
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| Re: Question for Roy : 7 Stud Variation, Roy Cooke, 17. Aug 2002 13:50 | ||
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| Hi Harold I live in Las Vegas Nevada on 16. Aug 2002 15:42 Harold Pierce, Jr. wrote: > I forgot to ask : what part of the US do you reside? | ||
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| Re: Question for Roy : 7 Stud Variation, Roy Cooke, 16. Aug 2002 12:00 | ||
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| Hi Harold I did get them and have not reviewed them as of yet.....I will do so and get back to you. Thank You Roy Cooke on 15. Aug 2002 13:36 Harold Pierce, Jr. wrote: > Thank you for prompt reply. I sent you the math tables very early this morning via > CompuServe e-mail to the "suggestion" address. Did you receive them? > > Actually this variation is not difficult to play. It will play just like trad. 7 card > stud except the frequency of the usual starting hands is greater as is shown by the > potential for action parameter. Take out a deck of cards, deal out 8 four card hands > face up and play a high-low with no qualifer. You will usually find that there are 3 to 5 > hands that can call the bring-in for a "loose -aggressive" play style. > > The other reason I undertook these calculations is that there is no data for 4 card > starting hands except for a few combos which can be found on Brian Alspach 's SFU poker > website. ( Incidently, I 'm an organic chemist and work at SFU). Popular dealer's choice > home games are Cincinnati 44 and 444, and math tables are useful for these games. > > When Mike get back from the Ozarks, please show him the tables so he can check them out > for math errors. It is taken quite some time to correct all the trivial math errors, > typos, etc. If you all find them OK you can them post them in the Poker Info and Odds > section with an appropiate acknowledgent to me, so they will be available for > everybody. > > MouseEars | ||
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