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 HU play against a very aggressive opponent, Ikke, 14. Aug 2002 03:19 | ||
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| A similar post has been posted on 2+2, but I'm really interested what you guys think. You're HU against a very aggressive, almost overaggressive opponent. He raises you in the SB (and button) and you call with Kd5d. The flop comes 9c6c5c You are first to act. What is your plan for the whole hand? Really appreciate any comment. Thanks | ||
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| Re: HU play against a very aggressive opponent, Roy Cooke, 15. Aug 2002 07:38 | ||
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| on 14. Aug 2002 03:19 Ikke wrote: > A similar post has been posted on 2+2, but I'm really interested what you guys > think. > > You're HU against a very aggressive, almost overaggressive opponent. > > He raises you in the SB (and button) and you call with Kd5d. > > The flop comes 9c6c5c > > You are first to act. What is your plan for the whole hand? > > Really appreciate any comment. > > Thanks Hello Ike If I think the player will throw away two overcards (or undercards) with no club and not move with that hand I will bet if I think that my bet will be taken seriously. If he is going to bet anything holding down, I will check-call him down if no club comes. If a club comes my hand is much weaker and the decision much tougher. The feel I get from situations like this is key to my decision. How your opponent will react in this situation is what I would base most of my decision on. This is a good close call question with no hard and fast answers. Like most close call questions the answer lies in the funtion of how your opponent will react with different holdings! Roy Cooke | ||
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| Re: HU play against a very aggressive opponent, Ikke, 16. Aug 2002 02:20 | ||
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| on 14. Aug 2002 03:19 Ikke wrote: > A similar post has been posted on 2+2, but I'm really interested what you guys > think. > > You're HU against a very aggressive, almost overaggressive opponent. > > He raises you in the SB (and button) and you call with Kd5d. > > The flop comes 9c6c5c > > You are first to act. What is your plan for the whole hand? > > Really appreciate any comment. Thank you very much for your post. I agree with your flop play under both cicumstances you mentioned. I have a question regarding turn play though. If you opted to check-call the flop, because he wouldnt lay down the hands you mentioned and you're likely to get raised in an attempt to push you of the pot, wouldnt you want to bet the turn, instead of check-calling it again? Because at this point, when you check-call a monotone board you must have something (either a flushdraw or more) and IMO fairly decent opponents can know this and will probably frequently check the turn behind with medium clubs or overcards. Now if he has for instance one weak club and two overcards to your pair and checks behind, then this is a disaster for your hand because he has a lot of outs going against you. Furthermore, I think if you bet the turn you are way less likely to get played with than on the flop, because of the doubled bet size. What do you think of the strategy (given the opponent) of check-calling the flop, bet the turn if a none flushcard comes, and if he just calls that turnbet, check-call the river on any card? Thanks Regards BTW Suppose that this is online, so you can't get a tell or real "feel" during the action of the player. | ||
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| Re: HU play against a very aggressive opponent, Roy Cooke, 16. Aug 2002 11:07 | ||
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| Hi Ike I will check-call him down if he is very aggressive (that is the texture of opponent you stated in the original question). Players of that demneanor tend to raise the turn also. So, If I might get played off the hand I will take the play that gets me to the river. Also, if the player is very aggressive he will bet more situations than he will call with. Yes, I understand you may give a free card that could lose you the pot. That needs to be compensated by the other factors regarding the texture of your opponent. If the player is not likely to move on the turn I think betting would be the best play. Making these types of decisions accurately requires both MUCH experience and VERY good feel. Roy Cooke on 16. Aug 2002 02:20 Ikke wrote: > on 14. Aug 2002 03:19 Ikke wrote: > > A similar post has been posted on 2+2, but I'm really interested what you guys > > think. > > > > You're HU against a very aggressive, almost overaggressive opponent. > > > > He raises you in the SB (and button) and you call with Kd5d. > > > > The flop comes 9c6c5c > > > > You are first to act. What is your plan for the whole hand? > > > > Really appreciate any comment. > Thank you very much for your post. > > I agree with your flop play under both cicumstances you mentioned. I have a question > regarding turn play though. > > If you opted to check-call the flop, because he wouldnt lay down the hands you mentioned > and you're likely to get raised in an attempt to push you of the pot, wouldnt you want to > bet the turn, instead of check-calling it again? Because at this point, when you > check-call a monotone board you must have something (either a flushdraw or more) and IMO > fairly decent opponents can know this and will probably frequently check the turn behind > with medium clubs or overcards. Now if he has for instance one weak club and two overcards > to your pair and checks behind, then this is a disaster for your hand because he has a lot > of outs going against you. Furthermore, I think if you bet the turn you are way less > likely to get played with than on the flop, because of the doubled bet size. > > What do you think of the strategy (given the opponent) of check-calling the flop, bet the > turn if a none flushcard comes, and if he just calls that turnbet, check-call the river on > any card? > > Thanks > > Regards > > BTW Suppose that this is online, so you can't get a tell or real "feel" during the action > of the player. | ||
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| Re: HU play against a very aggressive opponent, Andrew Wells, 17. Aug 2002 16:28 | ||
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| Another interesting reason to check-call the turn can arise if a fourth club falls on the river, because the aggressive player may be reading you for that draw. Understandably this opponent may be pushing a big club, but you could also be up against a pair that beats you which even this type of opponent should be induced to lay down if you bet into a fourth club on the river. | ||
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